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#1 Posted : 18 August 2009 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Bradbury Can anyone clarify for me whether the following is required to be undertaken by a 'Licenced Contractor'???? We are to replace the fascias, soffits and guttering on an estate of social housing properties and the asbestos survey has identified approx. 80 properties with Chrysotile asbestos cement soffits. The schedule allows for 3 person teams to replace a pair of semi's per day per team (approx. exposure 2 hours per team per day) over a period of approx. 6/8 weeks. We would of course be following the requirements of Asbestos Essentials Task A14 albeit on a larger scale. Any thoughts appreciated Lee
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#2 Posted : 18 August 2009 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Luke. Lee, Have you run through the following?: http://www.hse.gov.uk/as...os/managing/workdone.htm
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#3 Posted : 18 August 2009 12:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Zunda Take a look at; "Advice to managers and sole traders on ‘Asbestos essentials’" - Asbestos Essentials sheet a0, right at the last page, left-hand side; ‘Sporadic and low intensity exposure’ Going by this I'd say the work you propose exceeds that for non-licensed work.
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#4 Posted : 18 August 2009 14:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Bradbury Thanks to both guys replying and Peter I did initially read A0 in exactly the same way as you have done: "Normaly, non-licensed work includes work on asbestos-containing textured coatings, asbestos cement and certain work of 'short duration' on asbestos insulating board" meaning the short duration to apply to all 3 types of materials but if you follow the link Luke has mentioned it clearly results in a 'Non-Licensed' result!!! Cheers Luke Lee
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#5 Posted : 18 August 2009 14:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Zunda Lee, they're contradicting their own advice, see; http://www.hse.gov.uk/as...gapplication.htm#whendoi Peter.
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#6 Posted : 19 August 2009 08:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By gerry d Provided you have evidence to confirm that it is AC, then this product is a non-licensed product. The waters become muddied however, if you plan on using power tools, require to break any of it or employ any other method where airborne fibre levels may exceed control limits. You do have to remove and dispose of it according to the CAR 2006 and the relevant waste regs (whether you are in England or Scotland).
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#7 Posted : 19 August 2009 08:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Bradbury Thanks again everyone. It is AC (we have had absorption tests carried out) and as the soffits are generally only nailed every metre or so they can be easily removed without unneccessary breakages. This is the first time I've used this forum but if the responses you get are this quick, I will definately use again. Cheers
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#8 Posted : 19 August 2009 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Sorry Lee but I do not think A14 covers nailed materials!! It is intented for screwed or bolted only. You need to go back to the low intensity and sporadic definition aand assess the work. I personally think you are very close to the border line if not over it! Bob
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#9 Posted : 19 August 2009 21:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald I would say "probably not" to using lic contractor. But.....You need to check not only sporadic and low intensity but also consider the following..... particulalrly item 2, 3(i) and especially item 3 (ii). Subject to certain covering criteria the Lic Regulations do not apply if the 1. the exposure to employees to asbestos is sporadic and of low intensity 2. it is clear from a risk assessment that the exposure of any employee to asbestos will not exceed the control limit 3. the work involves: (i) short, non continuous maintenance activities (ii) removal of materials in which the fibers are firmly linked into the material matrix (iii) encapsulation or sealing of asbestos-containing materials which are in good condition (iv) air monitoring and control, and the collection and analysis of samples to ascertain whether a material contains asbestos. Properly controlled with a decent plan of work, PPE and RPE (Tyvek suit and 1/2 mask) and somewhere to shower the work can be done without a lic contractor. Cheers Peter
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#10 Posted : 19 August 2009 22:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By JasonGould I called HSE inspector on this as we have similar and he confirmed similar to above poster = no licience and no limited times. Risk assessment and good working practice e.g. following asbestos essentials = licienced contractor not required for cement product. Our other estate however has turned up AIB's so different ball game there.
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#11 Posted : 20 August 2009 11:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By MW Lee, You do not need a license for the work however they contractor must have training to remove the asbestos, they must have suitable RPE that they have been face fitted for, they must have insurance to allow them to undertake the work, they must also have (as previously mentioned) a RA & MS to undertake the works. A demolition job in our area was recently shut down by the HSE as the non-licensed contractor had none of the above (and he was working with AC) I hope this helps. MW
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