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Posted By John Fitzmaurice
Could anyone tell me if a road traffic accident is classed as a reportable incident under RIDDOR. Basically one of our vans was hit from behind on the motorway and the driver of our vehicle will be away from work because of the injuries he sustained. Should his days away from work because of his injuries also be recorded internally as part of our own statistics?
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Posted By Homer
There has been a lot on the forum re this kind of topic. RTA's are generally, from what I remember, not RIDDOR reportable but there was a varied chain of thought on this as some would see this as his place of work. Give HSE RIDDOR team a ring they will guide you.
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Posted By Phil Rose
The accident that you have described is NOT reportable under RIDDOR. The sort of vehicle accidents that are, are those that involve loading/unloading.
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Posted By Heather Collins
Regulation 10(2) of RIDDOR is quite clear that this type of incident resulting from a straightforward RTA is NOT reportable.
The RIDDOR Guidance is now freely downloadable from HSE Books http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l73.pdf
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Posted By andy.c.
John
Only if it happened in roadworks (and thats not likely on one of our motorways is it!!)
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Posted By Heather Collins
Even if it did happen in roadworks Andy it would still not be reportable unless one of the parties was involved in the work being done.
The exact RIDDOR wording from Reg 10(2) setting out the circumstances under which such an incident is reportable - "was either himself engaged in, or was killed or suffered an injury as a
result of the activities of another person who
was
at the time of the
accident engaged in, work on or alongside a road,....."
If this was a simple collision between two vehicles travelling along the motorway and neither was in any way involved in any roadside work then it's not reportable.
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Posted By D H
John - not reportable under RIDDOR. Very recordable under your own systems.
If the person was driving as part of his work duties and the vehicle was found to be defective, look out!
So record everything - including vehicle check cards / systems etc.
Dave
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Posted By Bob Youel
if the road is a private road on private property it is reportable where the other RIDDOR parameters are met e.g. work related
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Posted By Bill Parkinson
I have had this situation arise on a number of occasions and contacted a Principle HSE Inspector for clarification.
I was informed that these types of incidents are not reportable under RIDDOR and when the regulations were reviewed there was a debate as to whether they should be included. From my HSE contact the RIDDOR regs were not amended as it was felt that the current legislation (e.g. Road Traffic Act etc.) was sufficiently applicable.
Regards
Bill
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Posted By andy.c.
Heather,
accept your point on the wording of reg 10, however, after a shunt on the motorway in roadworks i called the helpline for guidance and was informed "if the accident happened in roadworks then you should report it"
but that just sums up RIDDOR really!!
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Posted By Heather Collins
It does Andy doesn't it! The fact remains that if neither you nor the other party were actually involved in the works taking place then the advice given was wrong.
However if the advice line can't get it right, in what is actually a straightforward case, then no wonder RIDDOR reporting attracts so many questions here!
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Posted By John Fitzmaurice
Thank you all for your responses, they have been very helpful. Just to let you know that I have contacted HSE RIDDOR who have informed me that it is not reportable under RIDDOR even if our driver is to have more than 3 days away from work. Similar to what Bill said they told me that it falls under the Road Traffic Act and is therefore dealt with by the Police and Highways Agency.
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