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Posted By Michael Carr
Hi all
sorry if this seems a little vague but I have to give a 10min talk on new or pending H&S legislation. We are a corporate organisation
any ideas other than the corporate manslaughter act??
Regards
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Posted By CW
First Aid at Work has recently changed.
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
First Aid at Work regs have not changed. If you look on the HSE website, there are no proposed changes to H&S on the 1st October. Strangely enough the only ones advertising changes in the First Aid Regs are training providers.
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Posted By martinw
Only minor changes but RIDDOR has been updated.
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Posted By Coshh Assessor
An opportunity to point out that new H&S regs don't come into being every week as so many people seem to assume?
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Posted By Michael Carr
Good point!
there is not much new legisaltion relevant to an office envirnment to be honest so that's a good idea
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Depends upon your industry. In mine PUWER, LOLER, Working at Height, Chemiccal Agents, Biological Agents (the two equate to COSHH), No Smoking, Noise at Work, WBV and hand-arm legislation has all been introduced in the last year (only the last three are updates, the rest wholly new).
Think yourself lucky if you have had none to assimilate!!
Colin
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Posted By Michael Carr
that's the problem... as I mentioned we are a corporate organization so it needs to be relevent.
regards
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
I might be wrong but PUWER, LOLER were introduced in 1998, no recent amendments. Legislation on smoking was introduced in 2007 and the last time the Working at Height regs were amended was in 2007.
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Steve
Please note I said "in my industry". I am in error, PUWER actually came into force almost three years ago - see SI 2006 No 2183 and LOLER see SI 2006 No 2184, both amended in 2008
No smoking legislation is not actually in force at the moment, but is under consultation with a view to implementation later this year.
Working at Height - I thought had just come into force, but not so. Consultation closed in April this year.
Just a little reminder to posters that not all readers are using the normal UK legislation, there are readers in specialist areas or other parts of the world!
Colin
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Posted By Phil Rose
Colin - I am similarly confused, the regs stated are not industry specific, as already pointed out PUWER, LOLER, WAH, Vibration, smoking etc were all introduced more than a year ago and some many years ago.
There really hasn't been a great deal of changes in the last year, or so other than CMCHA, H&S offences, some minor revocations around FA and OSRP and there is nothing so far planned for the October release. So, other than CMCHA I would say not a lot of great note.
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Posted By Phil Rose
Oh - how about REACH?
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Posted By Jon Paul
What about the Carbon Reduction Commitment, that is under consultation at the moment and is sure to affect pretty much every business!
Regards,
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Colin, there seems to be an eddy in your space-time continuum? (You can always blame Eddy I suppose!)
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Posted By Heather Collins
Folks, the SI numbers Colin posted related to the Merchant Shiping versions of H&S Regs. If you look at the original PUWER for example you will find that with a few exceptions they specifically did NOT apply to work equipment on a merchant ship.
It's easy to forget we aren't all shore-based isn't it? I think we should take Colin's word for it and get back to the original point... :)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Must not forget the 2008 Offences Act
Bob
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Posted By Flic
Actually, this thread illustrates the point that asking about updates in legislation can only be sensibly answered if we know precisely where you are in the world.
At first reading, some of the answers here are bizarre and from the UK perspective seem downright incorrect. Hopefully, the posters are correct, for their own location in the world!
Please enlighten us!!
Flic
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Posted By Steve Rhodes
As yu can see not a lot changing at the moment. Depends to some degree on the level in the organisation to whom you are talking, If it is at Director/senior management level the HSE are pushing strong leadership at present - some good info on their web site and a booklet you can distribute.
Re First Aid training mentioned above it is not training providers who are introducing change it is the HSE. They are updating the guidance on acceptable first aid training which has introduced some changes - and produced a marketing opportunity.
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Posted By Phil Rose
Heather - fair point and apologies to Colin. However, clarity could have been provided if it had been made clear that the post related specifically for the merchant shipping sector and in fairness I think that if Michael were in that sector he would have mentioned it. So sorry Micheal, I am not sure if there is a lot of real 'meaty' legislation changes for you to use.
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Thanks for all the comments after my post. I did state at the start "Depends upon your industry" - marine is different from shore, air will also be different, even within the UK rail will be different. Outside industrial sectors, Scotland and NI have devolved powers so may well be different and a lot of posters are outwith the UK altogether!
Colin
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
Steve
If you go on St John's website apparently the HSE are introducing new legislation regarding first aid on the 1/10/09. However if you go on the HSE website there is no mention of them introducing new legislation.
Steve
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Posted By Phil Rose
I believe that this is a change to the guidance for training and not a change ion legislation
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Colin/all, Health and Safety is not a devolved matter for the Scottish Government - British Legislation and Enforcement applies.
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Posted By Colin Reeves
"Colin/all, Health and Safety is not a devolved matter for the Scottish Government - British Legislation and Enforcement applies."
Strictly speaking true, but related matters that take time up on these forums such as smoking are devolved ......!!
Colin
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Posted By Graham Halliday
If you are looking specifically at the Marine environment then REACH / GHS is probably worth looking into. There is new legislation regarding transport of goods coming into force which will effect the Marine industry.
Probably not so relevant but I believe there is some new legislation next month relating to the recycling of batteries.
There was also due to be new legislation relating to vehicle marking (ECE104) but I believe this has been defered until 2011 (appears not enough people have died yet).
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Posted By DJ
Michael,
Have you considered recent case law, which has changed how legislation has to be implemented. Examples could include Grant Couzens v T McGee & Co. Ltd. and smith v Northamptonshire county Council that have amended the legal position on work equipment?
Regards.
DJ
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter
Mike
As stated elsewhere we need more detail to help out on the 'Corporate' bit. To me this could mean all offices or very big business covering many sectors. In the latter case from another posting the following ...'There is an incoming EU Directive that will replace the existing EU Machinery [Safety] Directive in December this year'. What type of machinery I've no idea.
Badger
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
The thing with Directives is you will have to wait for the UK to implement them with its own legislation. Directives only have direct effect once the implementation date has passed and then only on the state or state run organisations.
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