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#41 Posted : 16 October 2009 18:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor I agree it's worth maintaining the contact - while, like Shaun, I could recount a number of less than ideal experiences of fire officer intervention. It really depends upon who you get to deal with. However, let me also say that this can equally apply to some other professions (H&S not necessarily excluded).
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#42 Posted : 17 October 2009 00:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Messy Shaw Shaun: Spot on and ditto. I believe that I am aware of where your worked - indeed I spoke to you once a couple of years ago when you telephones & requested some info from my office. It's likely that I also know some of the characters to which your refer. It is fair to say that some of my (our) ex colleagues were excellent, professional and highly competent. Others lagged behind. As a result, it's a lottery for punters asking advice as to who they get Your comment about people coming in to do temporary promotion in their last few is now a little out of date as it's not so easy now. Perhaps these potential weaker links in the team have been replaced by another worry - non operation enforcement officers appointed from a non FS background and given only the basic of training. Many (not all) of these have less commitment to the job than ex uniformed, so study less and hug the codes like a child hugging a comfort blanket. My advice - be very careful about the quality of the advice given by the fire service. Some may be surprisingly inaccurate
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#43 Posted : 17 October 2009 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Tilley A new roller shutter installation is costly, involves daily manual handling and process that can go wrong. In the event of an 'out of hours' fire situation however unlikely, you will have impeded the egress from that exit of the fire fighting services. I think there is far too much for the common human being to make go wrong. Introducing potential hazards is not clever, cost is part of the investment as money is not a bottomless pit. Lucky if you can afford it, but many companies especially now, can't afford it. I would recommend the simplest of changes and build on that if necessary. Surely even if totally replaced with a new standard of fire exit door, it would be no more expensive than a roller shutter... Any door, a fire door can have suitable furnishing that leaves the door inoperable externally, but easily operable internally. If your existing door and frame are not suitably secure replace them for better. Covering them up with another system, a shutter doesn't sound reasonably practicable to me. Fire is a funny thing- in my place 9 years of no fires. So we don't have them(?). But a potential is lurking in the background. Foreseeability is one thing but what would you think if you walked past a fire door that leads to an exit, that had been NAILED shut with mdf batons over the weekend for security reasons? I kid ye not! When you lose perception of risk, people do the strangest of things. Don't bank on how the rest of the premises workforce think. They can be scary - I was taught via NEBOSH training 'trust no-one!'
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#44 Posted : 19 October 2009 03:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By www.hsepeople.com some good info on this at www.hsepeople.com
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