Posted By Swis Not accredited http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...iew&forum=1&thread=45596 http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...iew&forum=3&thread=44644

Posted By J Knight I guess it usually means accredited by an established accreditation body against a recognised scheme of accreditation. Thus say the NEBOSH NGC is accredited against a UK national accreditation scheme (which I can never remember the abbreviation for) as being equivalent to a set of other qualifications. IOSH MS is not accredited, as I understand it (from what I have been told on MS familiarisation days) it is not even a qualification as such, it just demonstrates that people have been given some instruction. Sorry to be a bit vague but I can't remember the technical stuff, John

Posted By FAH Hi Kerry To my knowledge, there is no legally consistent definition of the word "accredited" in the context that you're referring to within the UK. The reality is that the term "accredited" can be, and frequently is, used with the same degree of meaning as "competent". And we all know where that takes us!!! As a starter for defining whether your event or trainer of choice is suitably accredited I would suggest that you should consider the following :- Is the specific training event, or trainer, licensed [in some way] by a credible [yeah, I've spelled that right] body that is recognised as such by those in that particular field of expertise? If the answer is "Yes", you have an accredited course or trainer. An IOSH licenced course or trainer, by the above definition is accredited; as are courses & trainers by NEBOSH, CIEH, HSL, and even non-professional commercial organisations that can meet the criteria like PASMA & others [ie when considering harness training]. Asbestos removers are "licensed" by the HSE system but not accredited, whilst asbestos trainers do not have to be licenced by the HSE but should be affiliated to one of the few nationally recognised [by the industry] asbestos training organisations - this is accreditation. To provide First Aid training in the UK, you must use an HSE approved & licensed provider and trainer - I perceive this as accreditation. The real question is actually this:- What do you consider is essential to meet the definition of accredited for your particular needs? Frank Hallett

Posted By Kerry Edwards So if I am a trainer - CIEH,IOSH, BSc(Hons), CertEd - delivering IOSH, NEBOSH, CIEH, etc courses, I can be classed as accredited, and therefore the courses I deliver are accredited?

Posted By Swis The term accredited is generally used in order to describe whether a particular course is approved by Qualifications and Curriculum Authority or not… Managing safely and Working safely are not accredited by QACA therefore not accredited… Kerry You asked “Can someone clarify as to whether the IOSH Managing/Working and Directing Safely courses are Accredited or not please?” My response was “Not Accredited”. So please make sure you check your question before stating that someone hasn’t answered your question…

Posted By J Knight Swis echoes my comments; accreditation in the looser sense proposed by Frank would not have a great deal of value. Here's a formal definition: 'a. To attest to and approve as meeting a prescribed standard. b. To recognize (an institution of learning) as maintaining those standards requisite for its graduates to gain admission to other reputable institutions of higher learning or to achieve credentials for professional practice' MS might meet definition a), it would not meet b). This is not to discredit MS; IOSH make no claims that it is accredited, or, as I stated above, even that it is a qualification. And by the way, I do deliver MS and I think it is an excellent course with a great deal of value. It may be approved or recognised by bodies such as the ILO, but I really don't think this is the same as accreditation in the strict, formal sense as in b) above, John