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#1 Posted : 22 September 2009 09:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Haysman What are the rules and regs regarding use of an FLT on public roads (side-loader and counterbalances in this case)? Does an ITTSAR / RTITB accredited 'in house' course cover the guys to drive on the road, or do they need more? Also, do they need a C1 licence, is there a max weight limit for this, and if so is this laden weight or unladen? Obviously there's also MOT / tax / insurance issues etc. which are already covered. The Union claim the drivers need C1 if driving over 1000 metres per day, but this appears more to do with what modifications the truck needs? Anyway, a veritable can of worms has been opened here, with everyone having an opinion (our Union, the Transport guys, the DVLA and our local external training provider all seem to disagree - but that could be in the interpretation). I would love to have the definitive answer, if anyone has it! Cheers Stu
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#2 Posted : 22 September 2009 09:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell Stuart, I think the type of licence depends on the weight of the truck. This may help clarify ww2.runnymede.gov.uk/environt/health_safety/FLT_guide.pdf
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#3 Posted : 22 September 2009 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F. Try HS(G) 6
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#4 Posted : 22 September 2009 10:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By 99|Cadok|99 Stuart, Operators of forklift trucks must have a car licence in order to drive a forklift on the public highway. There is no need for the driver to have the C1 licence should the forklift be of the larger kind as there is an exemption for this. see section 2.1 (d) of the attached link. http://www.dft.gov.uk/dv.../pdf/leaflets/INF52.ashx Regards, Iain
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#5 Posted : 22 September 2009 11:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stefan Daunt Hi Stuart The forks must be removed or a suitable sturdy load carried on them for road travel, I.e corner post pallet.
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#6 Posted : 29 September 2009 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By hutchin Hi Stuart, Saw this and began wondering wether the company I work for was correct in it's actions by not letting any non licenced vehicle on the highway. (causes us a head ache as we have 4 wearhouse sites with in 1500m but access in via a 'B' road. As stated it is a bit of a can of worms so I decided to bit the bullet and contact The Department of Transport as they deal with this issue,not the Highways Department. After a long discussion they asked me to e-mail their technical department for a definitive answer. Here is the e-mail address: www.tts.enquires@dft.gsi.gov.uk Hope this helps- i'm still waiting for my responce but only contacted them yesterday. R
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#7 Posted : 12 October 2009 14:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian-Edwards Slight tangent, but don't forget that the minimum motor liability insurance will be required if using an FLT on the public highway (in accordance with the Road Traffic Act). The RTA's suitably vague in this regard, but areas such as an open-gated yard, where a member of the public could feasibly come into contact with your FLT in their vehicle, will also most likely be deemed part of the public highway. Safe option is to insure if there's any danger of this.
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#8 Posted : 12 October 2009 18:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By CAW HSG76 - Warehousing and Storage Use of fork-lift trucks on the road 468 If a fork-lift truck is to be used on the road it must be registered with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA). The Road Traffic Act 1988 defines a 'road'; in relation to England and Wales this means any highway and any other road to which the public has access, and includes bridges over which a road passes. 469 A significant factor affecting the duty to be paid is whether the truck will travel beyond the immediate vicinity or a distance of over 914 m (1000 yards) of the premises in which it usually operates. If the truck is used for distances of less than 914 m then it may be described as a 'works truck', ie it is designed for use in private premises and is used on public roads for: ¦ carrying goods between private premises and a vehicle on the road in the immediate vicinity; ¦ passing between one part of the premises and another, or to other private premises in the immediate vicinity; ¦ use with road works at or in the immediate vicinity. 470 When a vehicle is a 'works truck' it must still be registered and the appropriate duty paid. The exception is electrically propelled trucks, which are exempt from licence fees, but must still display a valid tax disc with 'null' amount entered. 471 Number plates should be fitted while the vehicle is in use on the public road. The form of plate should comply with current requirements. 472 The requirements relating to the lighting of all vehicles used on the public road are contained in the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations. These regulations generally apply, but lights are not required if the vehicle is not used on the roads in darkness. If lighting equipment is fitted, however, it should be in working order at all times. 473 Amber rotating or flashing lights should be carried by vehicles that cannot exceed 25 mph where they are used on dual carriageways with a speed limit of over 50 mph. This is not likely to apply to a fork-lift truck used for loading in the close vicinity of the factory. An amber flashing light may have been fitted for site purposes, but this is optional. 474 The licensing of fork-lift trucks and payment of relevant tax is dealt with by the DVLA. Enforcement issues relating to licensing of fork-lift trucks and drivers, payment of relevant road tax and lighting of vehicles on the road are dealt with by the police. 475 Consider the suitability of the truck for the condition of the road surface.
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