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#1 Posted : 29 September 2009 14:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Luke.
Just a quick one.

When lifting items using an excavator - does the bucket have to be removed or can the bucket just be folded in?

What is the law/best practice?

Thanks in advance!
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#2 Posted : 29 September 2009 14:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By justgossip
wE HAVE NOT LEGISLATED EITHER WAY. HOWEVER IF THE BUCKET IS ON WE HAVE FOUND THAT TAGS FALL OFF MORE FREQUENTLY. SHACKLE PINS WEAR OR CAN BE BENT MORE EASILY.

GARRY

LOOKS UP AND I AM ON CAPS,,,,OOPPPS
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#3 Posted : 29 September 2009 15:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Luke

Excavators are not specifically designed for lifting operations, although they are often used for this purpose. Our company policy mitigates this by insisting that all excavators used for lifting have a Rated Capacity Indicator fitted, check valves and does not exceed the SWL, with of course a lift plan.

Ray
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#4 Posted : 30 September 2009 09:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By stone rose
Morning Luke,

My input- get it certified! lifting with the bucket extended puts a large amount of eccentric loading through the sling and the cats head. I have seen dozens of chains where the Master Link has been deformed due to this type of loading. Bear in mind they are costly to replace. If it was me - Get the arm certified, lift with either the bucket off, or folded.
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#5 Posted : 30 September 2009 09:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By s_jesu
Excavator is not a lifting equipment and if you specify a job as lifting activity, you cannot use an excavator. You cannot use an excavator for erection. What ever you lift using the bucket is acceptable provided the item you lift is to be scrapped.No lifing accessories such as D-shakles, chains, Websling to be used for lifting.

Cheers
Jesu
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#6 Posted : 30 September 2009 12:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Simon Chidwick
Hi Luke

Here you will find some guidance on using excavators for lifting.

Hope it helps

http://www.cpa.uk.net/p/Safety-Leaflets/#3

Simon
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#7 Posted : 30 September 2009 13:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hossam
considering excavators to be a lifting equipment is not wise..
but in many situation and upon the judgement of an experienced personnel they can be very handy & cost and time effective in handling particular loads.
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#8 Posted : 30 September 2009 14:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By stone rose
It is worthy of note that there are excavators on the market that are designed to lift, and carry the correct devices and certification. Using uncertified equipment is unwise regardless of the experience of the operator. If the person certifying the machine has a degree of competence and uses the correct standard (LOLER is a requirement not a standard within itself)to test a machine (s)he will not allow an excavator to be certified that cannot safely perform the task - remember no unique ID and no stated SWL (considering an appropriate factor of safety) no compliance. I would emplore anyone considering this to get the machine certified or not as the case maybe.
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