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Posted By Robin M
Good Afternoon all,
I am currently looking at the above standards. I have previously worked for a large construction company who were accredited to them and am now with a much smaller construction company who aren't. Some poeple within the company have expressed an interest in persuing them and would appreciate opinions on there worth, whether they will attract more work from clients, whether they make a real difference etc etc etc.
Any comments appreciated, especially if anybody has been through this process recently.
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter
Hi Robin,
Our company (non-construction) has 14001 but not 18001 as its not seen as a requirement by our customers. The reverse may apply to your position with enviro coming a also ran. It would be nice to dig a garden in a new build house without any builders (enviro) rubbish being found many years later.
Basically its a compny marketing tool and how much your company can afford in the acrediting company's fees charged by the likes of BSI or LRQA.
Badger
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Posted By Robin M
Thanks Badger.
I agree this can be a marketing tool, but would you not agree that having to meet the standards means a real improvement in the management systems? I know the systems i worked with that were accredited were better than the unaccredited ones i am using now.
Any thoughts appreciated.
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Posted By John Fitzmaurice
Hi Robin,
My company has 9001 and 14001 really because it is a requirement of our clients and customers and if we didn't have it then we probably wouldn't win the work. However saying that we are quite fortunate that we have a team of HSQE Advisors who implement and monitor the management systems and a MD who gives the team his full backing so it does work out to be a useful tool. The problem with a small organisation is that accreditation may not really be of any benefit to them, as a guidleine I would develop your system to meet the standards and your own requirements but you might be creating unnecessary work for yourself and others by pushing for approved 3rd party certification.
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Posted By jmc
Hi Robin,
I have the same dilemma, When i asked previously about these systems i was informed that you contact them and they will tell you what to do to meet there standards
Once you reach there standards you pay a annual fee
JMC
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Posted By loweysafety
I agree with John.
I don't work in construction so I can't generally speak for that industry. However we use an IMS with BSI certification to all 3 standards.
The big contracts are usually decided by having these in place - often a key requirement of our contracts.
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Posted By Robin M
Thank you all for your comments.
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Posted By CAW
Its not only a marketing tool. Don't forget that a properly implemented management system such as OHSAS 18001 will provide a framework which will help you drive forwards improvements in health and safety performance as well. This has to a real benefit to all - identification of hazards, legal compliance, objectives checked and monitored. Please use one of the accredited bodies for assessment if you want to challenge you systems. Its not easy ( and not cheap) but it does keep you on your toes!
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Posted By Cliff Davis
The organisation i work for are a building services company allied to the construction industry. We are currently going through the process of introducing quality (9001), safety (18001), and environmental (14001) management systems in to the company due to the fact two of our clients have audited us and found us wanting in a variety of area's. I'm convinced that having all three in place will not only win us new business but also lock in the clients we already have. Don't lose site of the fact that any management system you introduce can only improve the way you work anyway and that once its up and running, independent accreditation is seen as a positive benefit by your clients.
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