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#1 Posted : 08 October 2009 14:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark1983 Hi all, At what point do trenches need to be supported, say in the case of excavating to lay the foundations of a house for example... My gut feeling says that it depends on the ground conditions being excavated, but how do you know what are safe solid ground conditions and what are not? Also are inspections required and what are the requirements / intervals etc Thanks in advance :)
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#2 Posted : 08 October 2009 15:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Sutton Your right in that ground conditions are the most significant factor. General rule of thumb for good ground is 1m or waist height on an average person
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#3 Posted : 08 October 2009 15:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By PaulC Mark Excavations require to be inspected: At the start of every shift where work will be carried out in them After any event likely to have an effect on the strength and stability of the exaction After any material unintentionally falls or is dislodged. I would be inclined to disagree with the above comment that excavations generally only need supporting above 1m, excavations should be supported, battered or steeped when ever there is a risk of collapse that may cause injury.
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#4 Posted : 08 October 2009 15:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By laugar I agree paul you Need to support excavations where their is a risk if collapse, a risk assessment should highlight the risk such as the affects of weather rain frost traffic movement in and around the excavation and length of time left open
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#5 Posted : 08 October 2009 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Mark A good question and one that does not have a simple or unequivocal answer. As the previous responder suggested, an inspection should take place daily or before each shift and following any significant loading or changes to the excavation, including the prevailing weather. As a rule engineers are best placed to decide whether excavations need to be supported. Whilst the depth is a significant factor it is not to be relied upon. Trench support might consist of steps, batters, struts or trench boxes. Ray
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#6 Posted : 08 October 2009 17:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch Hi Mark Yes depends on ground conditions. In hard rock you could have a 6m sheer excavation with zero chance of collapse - effectively lots of these on the railway line South of Inverness. Conversely, in gravelly ground, collapse readily foreseeable with depths of much less than 1m and with the potential for someone to be trapped e.g. if kneeling down to joint pipes in a trench. Regards, Peter
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#7 Posted : 09 October 2009 15:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Brede Clearly some of this is rule of thumb, but anything beyond a metre you should have an assessment of the geophysics of the location so that the hard rock example of an earlier contribution to this thread is properly considered. Also weather conditions will change soil characteristics. Heavy rain will increase the chance of slumping.
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#8 Posted : 13 October 2009 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Luke. As someone one that works in ground works... Each excavation will have to be assessed prior to starting by a competent person. They will decide the best course of action i.e. battering back (advice can be found in HSG185), stepping or shoring. As far as inspections go, the previous comment on 7 days etc.. is correct. There have been people killed in excavations less than 1m again, risk assess the ground conditions. When it comes to ground works you can not have a general rule. .... it will be interesting to see what the revised version of HSG185 stipulates when it is released.
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#9 Posted : 13 October 2009 12:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Sutton Paul C... if you revisit my posting you will see that I stated "GOOD" ground... not 1m for "any" ground. As a very experienced (over 20 years) groundworker and now HSE professional, I can honestly state IMHO that a competent groundworks supervisor digging through solid rock or other suitable material (GOOD ground) would not install supports in anything less than a 1m dig unless there is evidence of a significant risk of collapse
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