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#1 Posted : 19 October 2009 16:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Angela Hayden
Thought I would just share with you all an experience I have recently had and would be interested if anyone else has been embarrassed by their own lack of foresight, but have learned from it.

I carried out some First Aid training back in July. I volunteer myself to be used as a casualty. Whilst a blossoming first aider was putting me into recovery position they placed my arm higher than it wanted to go and I suffered some pain in my shoulder - I did not mention this at the time as I didn't want to put a damper on their practice. it was mentioned later though.

As a result of this injury, which has now lasted some three months - I thought it would eventually go away - I decided to see a physiotherapist and it turns out that I have to attend for some several months this torture and expense to get my should right agai.

Whilst being tortured, I was thinking about the moral to this story - why, as a professional, did I not risk assess the activities fully. I know, I know - but in my defence it wouldn't have occured to me that this injury could have happened until it did to me, I did think of all the obvious things people having to get up and down and dodgy knees and backs and things in pockets etc., etc., but not this particular hazard.

All I can say is that it has been a painful experience to learn, but I won't make the same mistake again.

Ang.
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#2 Posted : 19 October 2009 16:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Packer
Angela,
I wouldn't beat yourself up about it too much. I doubt that there isn't anybody here who hasn't done something that afterwards they thought they should have known better.
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#3 Posted : 19 October 2009 16:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. So is having the ability to, to use a horrible phrase, think outside the box.

I asked 9 professional seamen to risk assess dropping an anchor - only one thought of looking over the side before dropping - see
for the unintended consequences that could have happened.

Colin
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#4 Posted : 20 October 2009 13:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Angela

Your story is a very interesting illustration of the subtlety of desiging effective feedback.

Your injury offered you feedback about the ease with which a musculoskeletal injury or disorder can occur; when I heard a talk by the then world expert, Steve Pheasant, he emphasised the counter-intuitive point of how one could occur picking up a pencil.

I wonder to what extent did the trainee first-aiders received appropriate feedback about the risks posed by the task activities they included in their practice.
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#5 Posted : 20 October 2009 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Angela Hayden
Yes this was exactly my point - an opportunity to learn and feedback that learning in the future both for myself and the trainees. Particularly as they may have to deal with this type of injury too, so I would be saying to them to advise treatment asap, before the injury freezes and becomes chronic.

Ang.
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#6 Posted : 20 October 2009 13:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
John,

Unless she does it with her good arm there is no danger she will beat hereself up about it.

Long long ago............. When men were men and First Aid courses were done proper!

I lifted someone off the floor with a firemans lift (on thinking about it the technique was quite safe) I swung round and the "victim" hit his ankle on a chair back & broke it ( the ankle not the chair) !!

No one helped him as we were all rolling around laughing.
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#7 Posted : 20 October 2009 13:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Angela Hayden
Thanks for the scenario Jim - I know we shouldn't laugh but the image it conjured up is hillarious. Good to hear I am not the only one.

I don't need to beat myself up, I have a constant reminder at the minute and looking back this scenario is quite funny too, when you consider what I was supposed to be teaching!! Preventing further injury.

By the way Jim - I eventually got my CMIOSH - thank you for your help, much appreciated.

Ang.
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#8 Posted : 20 October 2009 14:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob35
Made me smile, I know I shouldn't...;-)

Reminds me of the ice breaker I always use,

As a H&S Manager, my previous injuries are:

Hitting my thumb with an axe. Luckily hit the knuckle and deflected, but 13 stitches!
Lower disc removed from my back
AND putting my thumb (Yes the same one!) into my bench grinder.....

So yes I do try and learn from my mistakes

Rob35
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