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Rhian Newton  
#1 Posted : 22 November 2009 07:48:14(UTC)
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Rhian Newton

I have been told that contaminated lagging (flammable substance not oil) can heat up by itself and auto ignite. However other than hearsay I have been unable to find any information on this "fact".
Does anyone know where I can get evidence please?
Or even suggestions of somewhere else to look for evidence would be a help.

Thanks for any replies - all are welcome
Rhian
firesafety101  
#2 Posted : 22 November 2009 11:34:50(UTC)
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firesafety101

Try spontaneous combustion - A substance with a relatively low ignition temperature can release heat, due to oxidation or fermentation. The heat cannot escape, so the temperature of the material rises above its ignition point then combustion begins if a sufficiently strong oxidizer, such as oxygen, is present.

bleve  
#3 Posted : 22 November 2009 13:28:22(UTC)
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bleve

Try:
On the thermal runaway of combustible fluids in lagging material
MCINTOSH and GRIFFITHS IMA J Appl Math.1995; 54: 83-96

This is also discussed at length by Lee's in the loss prevention in the process industries: Volume 1; (16/156)
Rhian Newton  
#4 Posted : 24 November 2009 03:13:02(UTC)
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Rhian Newton

Thank you all for your help.

Just in case anyone else needs to know this information I have been sent another reply that may be of interest. See below:

"Oxidative self-heating can occur in material contaminated by a variety of organic fluids, not just 'oils'. For example, a fire in 2004 in a sugar beet factory has been attributed to a plasticiser used in plastics manufacture."

Reference: http://www.hse.gov.uk/of...infosheets/is11-2008.pdf

The HSE publication 'The use and handling of flammable liquids' looks at how heating can be a source of ignition for flammable substances which may be of interest: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/hsg140.pdf

The following organisation may be able to advise you further:

Fire Protection Association: Telephone - 01608 812 500 or email - fpa@thefpa.co.uk
DEC1888  
#5 Posted : 24 November 2009 13:22:39(UTC)
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DEC1888

This used to quite common in the farming industry ,Damp hay in barns igniting and causing a blaze

Dec
shaunmckeever  
#6 Posted : 24 November 2009 17:09:11(UTC)
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There are two possible reasons. The first is due to spontaneous combustion, this is caused by either biological or chemical activities in which the heat build up occurs faster than the heat is dissipated. Then a point will be reached where the temperature is sufficient to ignite the material so long as sufficient oxidiser is available. The second is due to the autoignition temperature of the lagging or contaminant being reached as a result of an external heating source. The external heating source could be the thing that is being lagged. In most circumstances this would have to be very hot, probably in excess of 250C.
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