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smandeir  
#1 Posted : 15 December 2009 11:52:52(UTC)
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smandeir

I have noticed that some companies have large lockable compounds around their bulk gas storage such as nitrogen, whereas others have them completely in the open. What is the legal standpoint on this and what is best practice? I have to do an assessment on some gas storage tanks and I need some background information if any can help please?
m  
#2 Posted : 15 December 2009 13:24:11(UTC)
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m

Try BCGA: http://www.bcga.co.uk PM me if you need a reliable process gas installer
Dazzling Puddock  
#3 Posted : 15 December 2009 15:34:32(UTC)
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Dazzling Puddock

What gases are you holding? Different gases will have differing issues!!
smandeir  
#4 Posted : 16 December 2009 10:29:01(UTC)
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smandeir

We are using oxygen, nitrogen & carbon dioxide. I would have thought that all of these ought to be fenced off in locked compounds to prevent any kind of casual access, but I can't seem to find anything that tells me we have a legal obligation to do so?
jay  
#5 Posted : 16 December 2009 18:16:57(UTC)
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jay

Your question , i.e. legal obligation is in itself interesting because our legislation has "so far as is reasonably practicable" criteria and you will not get any text of a regulation that directly states that there must be fencing for such compounds. There is a BCGA Code of Practice for "Bulk Cyrogenic Liquid Storage at Users Premises" CP 36, 2006 version that has a sub-clause (2.4.13) on the subject of Fencing! This CoP covers tanks with an individual water capacity between 1,000 and 125,000 litres. Installations with individual tanks below 1,000 litres are covered in BCGA Code of Practice CP 28. Essentially, fencing is required to prevent access of unauthorised persons, where other means are not provided (to prevent access of unauthorised persons). On controlled sites with sufficient supervision, it states that fencing is optional. Where fencing is provided there are specific criteria in the Code of Practice 36
Steve e ashton  
#6 Posted : 16 December 2009 23:30:42(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

Smandeir: Are you in the UK? If so, Jay has given a good summary of why you are right that in most circumstances bulk gas installations (in this country) 'ought' to be fenced. I would have thought that you need to understand the standards applicable before doing an assessment - otherwise you will not really know what you are looking for and will not be able to assess whether it is adequate or not?? If you are needing to knwo the standard (regulatiosn) applicable elsewhere int eh world -then you need to specify. Steve
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