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auntysmash  
#1 Posted : 05 January 2010 12:54:37(UTC)
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auntysmash

We have a CNC router which machines composite door slabs (wood frame, PU foam core and PVC skin). Occasionally, the tungsten carbide bit snaps and the 'stump' continues to rotate on the snapped off part (which remains embedded in the slab). Sparks are shot up the extraction system until someone stops the machine. To me, this is a significant explosion and fire risk, although the manufacturers are being fairly non-committal. The manufacturer quotes ignition points for the PVC and wood at around 220 and 400 deg C respectively. Don't know about the PU foam yet. Obviously a dust / air mixture will burn a lot more readily than a solid. So, firstly do you reckon there's a level of risk high enough to worry about here? And secondly, given that we've done all we can to prevent the cutter bit snapping already, what could be done to prevent the sparks causing a fire or explosion?
Phil W  
#2 Posted : 05 January 2010 13:07:26(UTC)
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Phil W

You can fit spark detection and suppression to your waste extraction system. I have used a company named Grecon in the past www.grecon.com PhilW
auntysmash  
#3 Posted : 05 January 2010 13:15:18(UTC)
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auntysmash

PhilW, That look like just the job, Many thanks
paul.skyrme  
#4 Posted : 05 January 2010 13:51:48(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

You can also fit broken tool detection to the CNC machine which would help reduce this "sparking time". Also would it be possible to identify why the tooling breaks and perhaps address the root cause of this? Given the materials, tooling breakage should surely be minimal unless it is being run too long I suspect? As I understand there are other systems like the Grecon above, but this seems to do the job. It would also be possible to use the Grecon system to shut down the CNC thus killig 2 birds with one stone as they say! HTH Paul p.s. No link to Grecon
phow  
#5 Posted : 05 January 2010 16:28:21(UTC)
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phow

Dear Aunt. You are taking the right approach to prevent these sparks. However as you are handling combustable dusts in systems, you should be Risk Assessing the extraction system under DSEAR http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/dsear.htm. This will become the supporting case as to whether you add flame detection and supperssion or do something else. Most Dustraction systems rely on mitigation using BSEN1127-1 6.5.3 "Explosion relief". i.e. explosion bursting panels. This may be a cheaper route than a full suppression route and certainly if you can fit broken tool detection which will remove the ignition source. best wishes Peter
Muiryden  
#6 Posted : 05 January 2010 16:31:19(UTC)
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Muiryden

What about an explosion venting panel in the extraction equipment - passive and simple - no electronics required. See extraction equipment manufacturer. Dust can also be tested for explosion potential to define if required.
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