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safezone  
#1 Posted : 06 January 2010 14:39:31(UTC)
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safezone



Hi all,


Im hoping that you might be able to help me a bit out here.


I have been approached by someone who would like to set up an asbestos removal company from scratch.

He wants me to obtain the licence and help set things up.

I am fully aware that the licence can be a lengthy process.


The thing that concerns me is that it being a new company i will have to set up a health and safety policys , risk assessmnets, ssow etc.

This is going to be fairly hard surley, if i have nothing that the compnay has done previously surley ???

Or will it make things easier for me as i can build up the company as i want ??? confused ???

Has anyone had experince of doing this at all ??

Another thing i am not sure of is how much to charge ? surley i cant charge consulatncy rates of £300-500 per day ? or can i ? once again confused


Any kind of help or guidance would be much appreciated.


Thanks
CFT  
#2 Posted : 06 January 2010 14:48:37(UTC)
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CFT

What exactly is it that you do for a living now? Your answer may assist others in offering some advice.

CFT
safezone  
#3 Posted : 06 January 2010 14:53:32(UTC)
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safezone



I work part time for a fencing and ground works contractor and also freelance.


I have never dealt with asbestos before, but it does seem like an enjoyable challenge.
Claymore  
#4 Posted : 06 January 2010 14:58:58(UTC)
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Claymore

You dont indicate your level of competency or experience and there seems to be a lot of confusion mentioned.
Also where are you located etc.

More info would be useful before we can comment.

JM
safezone  
#5 Posted : 06 January 2010 15:03:25(UTC)
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safezone



Sorry,


I have my diploma, nebosh general along with other various certs.


I have worked as a health and safety manager for nearly 5 years in the same role.

Thanks for taking your time to reply
Alex Petrie  
#6 Posted : 06 January 2010 17:01:15(UTC)
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Alex Petrie

I'd recommend attending Asbestos Awareness training from an accredited training provider to give yourself some background on asbestos as a first hit. If you're looking for details then pm me and I can point you in that direction.

Secondly, a review of the ACoP L143 to the Control of Asbestos Regulations 2006 might help, along with MDHS100 and the relevant task sheets.

If I were you I'd consider not taking up this work.
Claymore  
#7 Posted : 06 January 2010 17:08:44(UTC)
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Claymore

Hi Safezone,
Asbestos is very specialised and given the current HSE "initiative" I would ensure I had all my ducks in a row before such an undertaking.
I work for a national housebuilder and have dealt with asbestos surveys and removal companies but there are several C&G courses P402 , P405 etc which I would seek before I even attempted to look at something like this. But this is only the academic side of it - you still need to chalk up a bit of experience which would be difficult if your doing it from scratch. Its not an industry for trial and error.

Look at the courses as an investment for the future and make sure you have really good professional indemnity insurance.
Also make sure you get full details of who is actually licensed - is it you or the person asking you to set up the company - remember where the line of responsibility lies!

(and get the money up front ! lol)

JM
safezone  
#8 Posted : 06 January 2010 19:38:36(UTC)
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safezone



Thanks for the replies,



I have my asbestos awareness already and i have been getting quotes for the various training require for the operatives to the supervisors and Director.


I will look at what you have suggested.


Whats should i look to charge for this if i was to take this on ?


Thanks
Ginga john  
#9 Posted : 06 January 2010 21:05:23(UTC)
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Ginga john

Hi safezone, i have set up three seperate asbestos companies over the last ten years, i have also helped over 10 other companies in the renewal process for their respective licences.
I can advise you that unless you are experienced and knowledgable in this field then it is not for the faint hearted !
The regulations and acops are highly complicated and as with CDM there is a strong requirement for individual competence, if you are being asked to set up a licenced removal company from scratch then you are going to spend the next three years gaining enough experience to get going or you will have to hire in a large and often costly person with enough experience to comply with the requirements of the regs (CAR2006)

hope this helps

regards

GJ
firesafety101  
#10 Posted : 06 January 2010 21:35:21(UTC)
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firesafety101

I would first contact your P I insurers for quotes as this, I am told can be rather expensive. Do not advise on anything to do with asbestos without taking up insurance.

SafeManagement  
#11 Posted : 06 January 2010 22:03:25(UTC)
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SafeManagement

Forget taking insurance that is not a get out clause in case you give incompetent advice. You have the responsibility of people lives in the advice you give and with your opening post, I would recommend that you do not set up this company.

As Ginga john said above, you need to prove competence, your opening post does not show your competence in this field at all, never mind setting up a company's H&S management systems.

I know abit about complex advanced scaffolding but I wouldn't go erecting the scaffold, I would leave that to the people who are competent to do so.

I am sure you have a wealth of experience and knowledge in the field you work in but if you have huge doubts then it may come back to bite you, or even worse place people lives at risk.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
boblewis  
#12 Posted : 06 January 2010 22:20:26(UTC)
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boblewis

Safezone

The clear answer to you has already been given - do not even attempt this task unless you have a wish to end in court for that is your most likely outcome. You also seem to be implying that you are either a Chartered or Graduate member in this case the Code of Conduct emphasises the need to do this only when competent ie Skills, Knowledge, Ability, Training, Expertise, Attitude and Behaviour. Without all of these keep well clear.

Bob
safezone  
#13 Posted : 07 January 2010 00:02:39(UTC)
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safezone


I will most probably step away from this one in that case.


I take it i would have had to worked in the asbestos field for a while to have my bearings in this situation.


Thanks for the advice
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