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NaomiW  
#1 Posted : 18 January 2010 15:31:05(UTC)
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NaomiW

I need some advice if possible please. The company I work for is currently recruiting for a Facilities manager and I'm tempted to go for the job , were it not for one thing, H&S has been added to the remit. This is not to say I am against H&S, but rather I feel that a specific role is needed within the business given the modern workplace and would like some advice from the pros.

The company is serviced offices, they have 20+ centres, 60+ employees, plus numerous sub contractors, from my level of knowledge (IOSH Managing safely) I can already see issues, but need some omph to fight for this role to be created alongside the facility. Any help would be greatly appreciated
MrsBlue  
#2 Posted : 18 January 2010 15:46:25(UTC)
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Naomi - my last job (nearly 6 years ago) was facilities (50%) and H&S (50%) allegedly. After 3 years the management decided to carry out an external audit of H&S. The first recommendation was that H&S should be full time. The management then asked me to apply for the full time post and I didn't get it. I was left with 50% of the job and the prospect of a cut in salary.

I negociated a redundancy package and luckily 3 weeks later picked up my present position - full time Health and Safety.

My point is from the description of your company it needs both a facilities manager and a H&S bod. I would speak to senior management and explain the issues you can already identify.

Joe

Julian  
#3 Posted : 18 January 2010 15:49:57(UTC)
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Julian

Its quite common these days for the FM to have overall responsibility for managing the company's H&S. After all there is a huge overlap when it comes to managing the hard and soft services; Fire, CDM, Workplace Regs, contractors, space planning, plant maintenance (legionnella for example) etc etc. Even the soft services has a heavy impact such as cleaning and the COSH information required.

Using your current experience in H&S might help you get the position and if you do perhaps the first thing is to request they pay for you to go on to do the NEBOSH Certificate or Diploma because of your new found responsibilities.
Canopener  
#4 Posted : 18 January 2010 21:32:47(UTC)
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Canopener

Naomi -can you clarify - "H&S has been added to the remit"?

If you are saying that the FM job is also appointed under reg 7 of the 'management' regs as the 'competent person/assistance' (i.e. the company H&S 'officer') or merely that it has the FM job has H&S responsibilities.

If the latter then I think this is pretty standard stuff, most FM jobs have a significant H&S 'remit' and I work very closely with our FM manager. I would also say that most management jobs, have a health and safety 'remit', and the hSe expect them to as well.

If on the other hand, you mean the former, i.e that it is an appointment under reg 7 then that is a different kettle of fish and the employer needs to ensure that you are competent to undertake that specific role, and similarly you need to be confident of your abilities to fulfill that role, and indeed any role that you are being asked to do.

Hope that makes some sense.
A Daniels  
#5 Posted : 19 January 2010 10:08:06(UTC)
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A Daniels

Me to!
I am in exactly the same boat, but about 4 years further down the line, with a bit of HR and Quality Management thrown in for added excitement.
I arrived in what was effectively an H&S free zone and have spent my time getting the place basically compliant and then slowly bringing in the Rolls Royce versions when I can.
I had basic IOSH training as well, but you can learn on the job. There is so much help out there and by consolidating what you know with strategic courses you may find this becomes a full-time career. The HSE website has been a god-send and there is a huge amount of help, support and information out there.
It is utterly daunting and is very much like being thrown in at the deep end, but if you are like me, that is only way you learn to swim.
Good luck and enjoy it - take the challenge!
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