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Durham37381  
#1 Posted : 01 February 2010 16:02:59(UTC)
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Durham37381

What is considered to be "suitable and sufficient" when planning emergency arrangements for confined space entry - team members who are first aid trained (including CPR) or having manual / automatic resuscitation equipment on site?
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 01 February 2010 16:08:11(UTC)
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RayRapp

At the risk of stating the ....... obvious, it must be due to the risks involved. Therein lies the problem. However, any person assessing the risks from confined spaces needs to take into account not just known risks, but also those that may occur from an emeregency scenario. Best I can do at short notice, sure others will contribute.
Alex Petrie  
#3 Posted : 01 February 2010 18:33:16(UTC)
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Alex Petrie

Durham, Have a look at L101 - ACoP to the Confined Spaces Regulations 1997. Suitable will be appropriate measures relative to the risks present on site - so if you feel that the works warrant the use of defibrillator's (and a suitably trained person) then so be it. Sufficient would be having enough resources to provide for all who might be affected - so if there are two operatives entering the confined space then it may be worth considering what first aid cover you require should they both need assistance at the same time. Hope that helps. A
Martin Gray  
#4 Posted : 01 February 2010 19:33:14(UTC)
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Martin Gray

Durham There is more to the arrangements than 1st Aid, how are you going to get the entry team/person out what protection will they require SCBA are they trained in rescue, have you got enough equipment to enter the confined space to retrieve a casualty etc. Do not expect the emergency services to be your rescue plan If you are putting together anything to do with confined spaces you should not just rely on the ACOP but attend a confined space training course to see what needs to be considered when meeting the requirements of the legislation and the ACOP. Sorry if this sounds like a rant but I regularly come across the emergency plan is written by a person who has read the manual but has no understanding of the issues that can and in some cases do happen in a confined space.
Durham37381  
#5 Posted : 02 February 2010 08:19:27(UTC)
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Durham37381

Folks, thanks for the helpful replies so far. The firm I work for is not new to confined spaces and is up to date with training, risk assessment and everything else involved in this work. I was wondering what the general consensus is without me having to write paragraphs about specific operations.
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