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safetodo01  
#1 Posted : 10 February 2010 20:13:37(UTC)
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safetodo01

Accepting that all over three day restricted work day cases are reportable under RIDDOR, I assume the classification remains as restricted work (RWC) and does not change classification to Lost Time.

Have I got it wrong, from a logical sense restricted work is restricted work irrespective of the number of days!


jay  
#2 Posted : 11 February 2010 11:26:36(UTC)
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jay

Presuming that you are referring to your internal company recording/reporting system that uses OSHA criteria, yes.

OSHA Criteria are more strict/prescriptive compared to RIDDOR. For OSHA, you do not include the day of the accident -similar to RIDDOR.

safetodo01  
#3 Posted : 11 February 2010 21:30:49(UTC)
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safetodo01

Sorry to clear this are you saying yes to my presumption that it is reportable but remains classified as retracted work case, or yes I got it wrong.

I'm keen to see some literature which explains "in simple terms" either for OSHA, OGP or RIDDOR

Would like to understand the thinking behind classification change, if needed
Steve Sedgwick  
#4 Posted : 12 February 2010 11:54:56(UTC)
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Steve Sedgwick

It would help us with an answer if we had more background to the reasons for the questions. Jay points top the answer, I think.
This is my attempt

RIDDOR (Injury) Reporting categories are
deaths; major injuries; over-3-day injuries – where an employee or self-employed person is away from work or unable to perform their normal work duties for more than 3 consecutive days; injuries to members of the public or people not at work where they are taken from the scene of an accident to hospital;
Note it mentions "over 3 day injuries" this includes restricted work day cases.

OSHA (Injury) reporting categories are Medical Treatment Cases, Restricted Work Day Cases, Days Away from Work Cases (LTIs), these are all classed as Recordable Injuries. other categories are First Aid Cases and Fatals. Nb we are only covering injuries

Many organisations today use the OSHA Standard for recording injuries so that they can benchmark against other international companies or are themselves an international company. They still need to comply with RIDDOR in the UK.
My guess is that the question refers to an international organisation.
Hope this helps
Steve
safetodo01  
#5 Posted : 16 February 2010 19:29:35(UTC)
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safetodo01

The scenario is that you have and over three day restricted work case, you report it as required under RIDDOR as an over three day injury. Statistically is it still RWC or now LTI? If a change to LTI is required where is this written?
Kate  
#6 Posted : 17 February 2010 09:35:01(UTC)
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Kate

As others have said it entirely depends on what classification system you are classifying it within. Is it your internal company system? Is it based on OSHA? RIDDOR does not include these classifications of restricted work or lost time (it's just "over three days" regardless), nor tell you how to classify injuries for your internal company statistics. That's entirely up to your company.
Billibob  
#7 Posted : 17 February 2010 13:13:51(UTC)
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Billibob

Can see where you are coming from safetodo. I used to work for an american company in the UK and we used in all internal reports the RWC and LTI classification. In our annual reports we also referred to LTI and RWC and not the RIDDOR classification. All these reports were sent through the head office in the States for their aggregated reports across the whole organisation.

Obviously for the purposes of RIDDOR we used the over 3 day category to report to the HSE but these were not included in our statistics instead we merely stated the number of incidents reported to the HSE.
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