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Hi all,
iam doing a report for the FPAL/Achillies vendor system and it has a section on Competence and training.
I have noticed more and more clients are asking for records of competence and systems in place.
As we have never had a formal competence policy, i am not sure exactly what is being asked for, as they often state "other then training, what competence records do you keep".
However on a recent BSI inspection, we had a guy who has been fixing grinding equipment for 20 years, but has no formal qualification (most seem to be a minimum of electrical engineer or 3 year courses etc, when all he does is effectively change a plug), i heard the woman from the BSI say under her breath (experience doesnt matter, only the cert does).
So i don't know what i need to do to develop a competency policy, i am implementing a training system, to begin internal traiing, for the basic required courses to create a more gelled team of guys who know who to ask if they are unsure etc, rather than busing them all up to the local supplier for them to fall asleep at £300 a day...each!
Has anyone developed a competence policy at their workplace, we specialise in Fabrication and welding etc.
Thanks all.
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It is not unheard of to assess competence internally depending on the specific task. You could develop a training programme for the task, conduct the training and then assess the competence in practice. You could then issue your own certificate of competence.
This approach is generally acceptable for fairly straightforward/low risk activities although you would not be well advised to 'self certify' someone as competent for a higher risk activity.
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No, the internal "self" training is for the basics of Abrasive wheels, the care of lifting slings etc, the welding etc is through apprenticeships and working with a experienced buddy etc.
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Richard
You can PM me and we can discuss this offline.
The real need is for a strctured competence manageen system and a simple policy is not th totality of what is required. All good H&S policies shold refer to competence rather than training per se as this is the core issue.
The constrction of a workable CM system is organisationally specific. Many ISO etc auditors have still not fully got their heads round this issue yet
Bob
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CPD events, seminars, research etc. can all contribute to the maintenance of competency in the broader sense. Whilst relevant, this tends to be a domain for "professional" staff and managers, as opposed to those at the coal-face.
Beyond that, a debate can open up as to the definition of "training". As an example, is a program of toolbox talks 'training', or merely a refresh (information) of a previous work instruction?
Conversely, can any "training" event which does not include an evluation of learning (at some later time) be properly considered "training".
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