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spud  
#1 Posted : 29 March 2010 11:02:26(UTC)
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spud

Hi Learned Friends,

Just a quick one for my own understanding. Most Electrical contractors i pre-qual are obviously NECIEC Accredited and hopefully working with the 17th Edition. I seem to be getting a few who now say they are ECA accredited. Does anyone know if there is any real difference between these and why they would not be in NECIEC or is it purely a cost issue?

Secondly, If they are ECA do they still have to go through the usual editions as other electricians do ie 17th etc.

I am also of the understanding that Electricians with the 16th edition can work on electrical equipment but its a 17th edition guy that has to pass it off, is this correct?

Regards

Alan
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 29 March 2010 16:54:43(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Both of these bodies are well recognised UK bodies (ECA perhaps being larger of the two in terms of membership) and both publish standards in the public domain (www). I would not discriminate between the two at pqq stage.
I believe this is a matter of choice for the electrical contractor, not cost.
mark.g  
#3 Posted : 31 March 2010 14:14:47(UTC)
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mark.g

I agree with previous post.

The 2nd part of the question the 17th edition introduced some quite big changes regarding installation standards mainly around the use of RCD's (earth leakage detection devices) which are now required on all sockets and in bathrooms..subject to some qualifiction i.e an installation under the supervision of a competent person . There are also big changes related to how cables are run in buildings.

Both a 16th and 17 th edition person can carry out work and sign it off but using the former it would be harder to demonstrate compliance with BS7671 (17th edition wiring regulations)

A conversion course would take about half a day a full course about 4 with a multiple choice questions it does not an electrician make.. but you should ask why someone as not updated their skills.!!!

You should instead ask for all electricians to be at least 17th edition trained with the qualified supervisor to have a minimum of BS2391-1.
Grizzly  
#4 Posted : 31 March 2010 23:36:17(UTC)
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Grizzly

mark.g wrote:
... qualified supervisor to have a minimum of BS2391-1.


City & Guilds (C&G) 2391-1, not BS :-)
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