Can anyone recommend the best products for rectifying breaches to compartmentation around IT cables, utility pipes, cables etc.

Thanks

SB

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try envirograf they do a range of products one being a pillow that can be stuffed in the gap and will expand in a fire situation.also cables can then be added and removed easily without breaking any expanding foam treatment but by just simply pulling the pillow out carrying out the work and replacing it.

Phil

For goodness sake do not use the expanding foam!!!

Not unless you have the precise measurements - required thickness - and are prepared to put your name to it that you have installed it to the required standard and that it will resist fire for 30 or 60 minutes under test conditions.

shaunmckeever

You told everyone what not use how about telling us what to use LoL. Chocolate and teapot spring to mind

The pillows will expand to fill any gap. SBH

there are lots of products to suit your needs have a look at the sites other members have suggested

i agree with MAXPAYNE ... try HILTI products..
I have used in when i was working in the hospital..
all the holes and gaps caused by wires and medical air pipes were patched and its effective

SAFETY MATTERS

There is a product based on rockwool and an associated sealant designed specifically for this type of work - a simple google for fire stop rockwool will find it will locate it

Bob

shaunmckeever

I take it you don't work for Hilti then LOL

Phil

Hi Shaun,
I think you may be being a bit disingenuous there. I agree that a smoke compartment is analogous to a fire compartment. However, I think that inter compartmental smoke migration via the use of various products as discussed in this thread is not as black and white as depicted.

Again, it all depends on the fire risk assessment and the fire risk assessor ;) ; taking into account, the nature and use of the premises, fire growth and combustion products, the extent of compartment boundary penetrations, pressure differential between compartments, Smoke control systems provided and smoke retarding construction employed etc.

As you know, there are primarily two types of smoke migration, heat driven buoyancy forces resulting in strong stratification and intrafacility smoke migration. The latter is dependent on time of exposure, size of penetration, temperature of smoke, adjoining compartment volume, ventilation rate can result in tracer gas like smoke migration with minimal impact outside of the original compartment of origin.

Where possible I would advocate the use of cement products but I would not automatically dismiss other products either.

Out of interest


Which examinations or institute have you taken to become chartered fire engineer

Phil

Of course Phil. It will be with the institution of fire engineers, exams are fire engineering degree and masters in forensic fire investigation plus several years experience.