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We employ about 15 maintenance staff (across the trades) who all wear safety boots / shoes / trainers. We also employ about 20 cleaners. One of the cleaners has said they should also have safety shoes as a minimum.
It is the opinion of my maintenance manager that all the carpet and scrubbing machinery is on wheels and should not need to be lifted. Heavy items are moved (boxes and furniture etc) by maintenance staff (all males and have undergone MH training). The cleaning materials are all in plastic containers. Something could fall off a table or a cupboard etc but this could happen to any member of staff. Risk assessments have been done and safety shoes were deemed unnecessary.
The Facilities manager (the maintenance manager's boss) is worried that if the cleaners don't have to wear safety footwear the maintenance staff may say "why should I". Risk assessments state the required PPE for all types of maintenance work.
Is the cleaner right? Is the Facilities manager right? Who is right if anyone?
Views welcomed.
Joe
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Joe, my take is that the only thing that points up the need for PPE is a risk assessment and making some people wear it to help make others wear it is a no-no.
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Joe, consider not just the toe protection; the shoes can also come with non-slip soles which may be appropriate for some cleaning tasks
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Joe - is there any danger that "the carpet and scrubbing machinery is on wheels" can run onto or trap the foot causing injury?
The fact that falling objects can happen to any member of staff is accepted - but is there a risk of harm and do the rest of the staff wear safety footwear to protect them??
Personally - I would revisit the assessment with a member of the cleaning staff and a member of the maintenace staff as part of the team and satisfy myself that all was correct and well.
David
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I'd agree with m & david, safety footwear doesnt necessarily need to be the same as those provided elsewhere in the organisation. Particular attention should be paid to slip resistance in the cleaning industry (obviously dependant on the flooring type in question) but also oil/chemical resistance for the cleaning solutions being used. It does come down to appropriate risk assessment at the end of the day.
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Hi, As mentioned above its down to your risk assessment but I would guess safety shoes wouldn’t be necessary but you should specify suitable footwear i.e. flat heeled/closed toe. PPE in the form of slip resistant shoes could be appropriate although I’ve not come across this for cleaners but if you are mopping a floor you are quite likely to slip so sounds good. Check the HSE link: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/web/slips02.pdfRegards Steve
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