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We have purchased a new building which which contains 1 passenger lift (8 person)
Insurers have visited the site and inspected the lift. One of the items on their report was for us to arrange for the Overload Detection Device to be calibrated in accordance with SAFed.
We contracted a company to carry out the required work, but having inspected the lift their report states NO DEVICE FITTED.
Dealing with lift issues is very new to me, I have started to look through doc's I have found on the HSE website, but am still not confident on the topic.
Does such a device have to be fitted?
The doc's I am reading through mention the device and that it should be tested/calibrated according to SAFed, but I have seen nothing that states there is a requirement for it to be fitted in the first place.
To anyone out there with knowledge of the subject - please advise.
Sarah
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Hi, Not my area but Schedule 1 of the Lift Safety Regulations 1997 states that ‘Lifts must be so designed, constructed and installed as to prevent normal starting if the rated load is exceeded’. See the following link: http://195.99.1.70/si/si1997/19970831.htm#sch4Appears to be a straightforward requirement if I have got it right. Cheers Steve
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I can not give any specific advice, but in general LOLER aplies and an insurance engineer should have given a time period if the fault is dangerous. If in doubt i would speak to the assessor as he is the competant person and should be able to give further guidance.
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Firstly can i say that i am surprised that a new lift has not been fitted with an overload device, it would normally come as part of the package, i would contact the building owners and ask for the specification on the lift fitted, having said that, unless you work in a factory environment the chances of over loading the lift is very slim. When a lift is installed it has to pass an insurance inspection which includes the safety gear (stops lift if over speeding) to do this on a 8 person passenger lift we would load the lift with the weight of 12 people, to ensure it was capable of working under normal circumstances.
Find out who installed the lift, and ask them directly, or as i stated earlier contact the landlord to get the correct information from the specification sheet, but in the mean time dont worry, your lift is safe.
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Thanks for the info/advice.
My original post has not made it clear (sorry about that), but the lift is not a new installation. The building/premises is 'new' to us. So this is a lift we have inherited with the purchase of the site.
Previous maintenance/service records cannot be found.
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So its a old lift, in that case it may well not have an overload system, what type of environment is the building, is it just an office or will the lift be used to move heavy goods around the building? And if so, how heavy are the goods being moved?
And i am sad to say that sometimes when a lift company lose the service contract, they normally remove all the maintenance and service history of the lift, and sometimes even the electrical drawings to make it difficult for the incoming contractor to repair or maintain the lift properly.
And that has been going on since i first started working in the lift industry, many years ago!
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If it was an insurance inspection then this makes it a thorough examination. What level of fault is it on the paper work. A,B or C if it is an A then you must comply with the guidance given. Failure to do so could result in enforcement action.
PM me if you think i am right and you want further advice.
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