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bluewater  
#1 Posted : 20 April 2010 16:26:06(UTC)
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bluewater

Guy's European Standards - EN 529:2005 In July 2005, a European Standard was approved by the Comité Européen de Normalisation (CEN) which supersedes CR 529:1993. This requires that all member countries must introduce the European Standard as a national standard without amendment. In the UK it is known as BS EN 529:2005 Respiratory protective devices - Recommendations for selection, use, care and maintenance - Guidance document’. With particular reference to the wearer, Section 9: Adequacy and Suitability, sub-section 9.3.4 Assessing suitability for the wearer, requires that both the ‘facial characteristics of the wearer including facial hair’ and the ‘physical characteristics of the wearer’ be considered when selecting RPE. In particular, Annex D defines the requirement to be clean-shaven if tight-fitting RPE is selected and even defines the term ‘clean-shaven’. Can anyone supply me with the definition as stated in Annex D of these standards please? Thanks in advance
teh_boy  
#2 Posted : 20 April 2010 16:51:39(UTC)
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teh_boy

Not a real answer - but it may point you in the right direction Does the UKs HSE guidance help? http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/fittesting.pdf
Batham31064  
#3 Posted : 20 April 2010 16:59:07(UTC)
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Batham31064

I am not sure I fully understand the question. However I and a colleague, have carried out over 70 quantitative mask fit tests using a PortaCountplus respirator fit tester. The main cause of failure in these tests is due to persons arriving unshaven (e.g. designer stubble). When they return after having had a shave they will pass the fit test. If the person has a beard then there is no way they can pass a quantitative fit test. The only solution is for them to wear a powered respirator. I hope this anwers your query.
stephendclarke  
#4 Posted : 20 April 2010 17:40:59(UTC)
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stephendclarke

Hi, There has been a fairly recent post discussing RPE and facial hair - but as usual search doesn't work for me! Regards Steve
bleve  
#5 Posted : 20 April 2010 18:02:54(UTC)
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bleve

In this context unshaven means hair which has not been shaved within the previous 8 h period prior to the work shift, since studies have shown that even less than 1 day’s growth can dramatically increase face seal leakage.
xRockape  
#6 Posted : 20 April 2010 20:39:42(UTC)
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xRockape

Not an expert in the field but am prity certain the principles of my military carrier in which one of my jobs was a Nuclear, biological and chemical instructor. In this sector facial hair was not allowed as it effected the RPE fit within 24hrs, RPE fit should be retested ever 12 months. I would check the Asbestos removal Regs for a resonable civilian answer, again not my field. Hope this helps
Canopener  
#7 Posted : 20 April 2010 21:05:42(UTC)
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Canopener

As already said there has been a recent thread on this. You might want to have a look at HSG53 http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/hsg53.pdf which mentions the facial hair issue and has a reference to the BS to which you refer
bleve  
#8 Posted : 20 April 2010 21:24:15(UTC)
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bleve

Annex D defines the requirement to be clean-shaven if tight-fitting RPE is selected and even defines the term ‘clean-shaven’. Can anyone supply me with the definition as stated in Annex D of these standards please? Definition of clean shaven from Annex D In this context unshaven means hair which has not been shaved within the previous 8 h period prior to the work shift, since studies have shown that even less than 1 day’s growth can dramatically increase face seal leakage.
bluewater  
#9 Posted : 21 April 2010 11:38:19(UTC)
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bluewater

BLEVE wrote:
Annex D defines the requirement to be clean-shaven if tight-fitting RPE is selected and even defines the term ‘clean-shaven’. Can anyone supply me with the definition as stated in Annex D of these standards please? Definition of clean shaven from Annex D In this context unshaven means hair which has not been shaved within the previous 8 h period prior to the work shift, since studies have shown that even less than 1 day’s growth can dramatically increase face seal leakage.
BLEVE, Is the last paragraph in your post the exact wording from Annex D ?
bleve  
#10 Posted : 21 April 2010 13:09:52(UTC)
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bleve

Yes it is
bluewater  
#11 Posted : 22 April 2010 13:44:29(UTC)
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bluewater

Many thanks for your input guys.
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