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hoosier  
#1 Posted : 25 April 2010 16:01:24(UTC)
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hoosier

Hi Guys
Some of you may be interested to know I have published two new papers and made them available on http://bsms-inc.com/library.aspx.

One is on the Return on Investment (RoI) of various Behavioral Safety processes and the other is a Safety Leadership case study in Construction.

Enjoy

Dominic
imwaldra  
#2 Posted : 26 April 2010 09:32:40(UTC)
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imwaldra

Your link doesn't work for me, Dominic. Please check, as I'm sure you will have some interested readers here.

Ian Waldram
Firesafetybod  
#3 Posted : 26 April 2010 09:57:28(UTC)
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Firesafetybod

Try linking to:
http://bsms-inc.com/Docu...mmittment-Cooper-013.pdf
I managed to pick it up.
ahoskins  
#4 Posted : 26 April 2010 09:59:10(UTC)
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ahoskins

You need to remove the . after aspx Ian.
hoosier  
#5 Posted : 26 April 2010 13:02:54(UTC)
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hoosier

Apologies. I put a period at the end of the link which threw it doolally!!

http://bsms-inc.com/library.aspx is the correct link.

Best wishes
Dominic
KieranD  
#6 Posted : 29 April 2010 16:32:02(UTC)
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The Senior management Commitment Index in Figure 2 is a well-designed tool for stimulating movement up the Behavioural Safety Maturity Index, explained in your 2009 title, 'Behavioral Safety A framework for success'.

Simple questions

1. Where can I get a copy of the middle management checklist, and the front-line management checklist?
2. Is there a hierarchy in the 11 items in the senior management checklist? and in the other checklists?
Paul-B  
#7 Posted : 30 April 2010 08:32:09(UTC)
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Paul-B


This study shows that the commitment of management levels to safety is what is required.

I agree from my personnel experiences, that it is the commitment of front line management, the supervisors / Forman that bring about real change.

My one question in relation to the C.A.R been fixed quickly, is a 30 day time frame for closing out safety issues of too long a duration.

I also would agree with KieranD questions in that where could one obtain the checklists in regards to the (1) Middle management (2) Front line management F.L.M (3) V.O.S Visible observations checklist (4) Safety Observations Checklists S.B.O (5) Corrective Action Reports C.A.R

The reduction in the incident / accident rate over the study period when one considers the scope of works / man-hours worked / amount of contractors / personnel is a testimony to what can be achieved.

Well done and congratulations

Paul
boblewis  
#8 Posted : 01 May 2010 09:49:07(UTC)
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boblewis

So what is new in this paper - Management commitment is key to successful performance? - this has been recognised by many for many decades and yet we still cannot get to a situation where the message sticks. BP is a case in point - when the strong leader, John Brown, declines for whatever reason the committment is lost - Texas City then occurs, and potentially a rig sinks!!!

It is the old rule in a new name - what is measured is managed. As yet the right measures are not being written/agreed by senior management and thus our old friend Objectives Drift occurs with the result that the system output is some way from what the Directors originally intended. Even on this forum we see a real lacking of understanding of the setting of objectives and targets, even the OHSAS standard does little to assist in this. Fixed universal checklists may guide directors in the development of their own organisation specific checklists BUT I emphasise guide - they cannot be applied without some degree of thought/modification

Bob

KieranD  
#9 Posted : 01 May 2010 11:06:31(UTC)
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In reply to Bob's question, 'What's new in this paper?':

1. A practical example of a checklist for monitoring management behaviour, useful for implementing the Behavioural Safety Maturity Ladder

2. Relatively lucid argument about a complex subject, with readable uses of statistics

3. An example of the kinds of argument that IOSH officers and senior staff might usefully deploy in public instead of getting enmeshed in unproductive legal exchanges which reinforce the outdated reputation of good safety practice

Steve Howells  
#10 Posted : 01 May 2010 11:31:11(UTC)
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Steve Howells

Having just spent a week with Dom recently, and having some convincing to do to get my Boss to spend money on B.S., the tool does a good job of arm twisting!!

The book is a good read Dom (have just finished) and the web site is improved. Will talk soon re 'tools' you offered.

P.S. if you get the opportunity to attend Dom's Behavioural managemtn training, do it!!

P.P.S. Dom its Steve!!
boblewis  
#11 Posted : 04 May 2010 21:44:49(UTC)
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boblewis

Kieran

Forgive my tardy reply but your answer to my question is too bland as I have seen all of these things before in other disguises. Yes we need starters for ten etc but I cannot escape my nsense of deja vue.

Bob
David H  
#12 Posted : 04 May 2010 22:11:00(UTC)
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David H

As Bob said - leadership?
BP have now claimed that the death of 11 people and an enormous environmental disaster is not their fault. It was the rig owners fault. yet they will foot the bill. Why if not their fault??

Yes we need BS to move forward. We have enough procedures, training, rules etc. It IS a people thing.

But it needs to come from the board rooms of the major employers etal or we waste our time and efforts

David
NigelB  
#13 Posted : 05 May 2010 10:13:38(UTC)
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NigelB

Dear All

I'm about three quarters of the way through Dom's book and found the following intriguing:

‘The major underlying reason that 99 percent of all Behavioral Safety processes fail is a loss of credibility.’ Page 140

This does not sound like a very good success rate.

Cheers.

Nigel
KieranD  
#14 Posted : 05 May 2010 11:11:20(UTC)
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Nigel

Dom Cooper is rare amongst safety psychologist/practitiioners in consistently applying scientific standards to evaluating intiatives. While 1% 'success rate' is low, it is a mark of progress that an acknowledged leader in applying this methodology estimates it is at this level. As is customary in scientific analysis Unravelling what this estimate actually implies could itself be very useful.

In his applications of error analysis, the other safety psychologist/pracitioner from a Manchester university, James Reason, faced a very long journey before his methodology became standard practice in many high hazard areas.

It's part of the long evolution in safety management and can only quicken according as scientific education and debate becomes the norm in this area of leadership.

KieranD  
#15 Posted : 05 May 2010 11:40:58(UTC)
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Bob

No rush.... we both have lives beyond this forum :-)

You may well have seen what Dom is writing in many guises yet what is distinctive about what he,as a safety psychologist/practitioner, is doing is presenting a scientifically based case. This is different

The significance is actually historical and very constructively addresses the major problem of the lack of respect for the safety profession.

Decisionmaking in organisations rests on four kinds of reasoning:
1. based on precedent
2. based on rules including laws
3. based on scientific research that generates understanding of new optons
4. based on innovation that takes scientific research into account.

Recurrent storms about safety in the media and with politicians reflect the dominant conservatism of the safety profession which is seen as largely dependent on precedent and rule-keeping. Your own disregard for scientifica research, which you classify as 'bland', illustrates how, with the best of goodwill, you set yourself and the profession you love, as mired in the nineteenth century.

I believe that the work of Dom Cooper, Tim Marsh, James Reason and other scientists who consistently publish scientific evidence in support of the profession will very gradually assist in conveying to scientifcally educated members of the public the value of the safety profession.

Scientific research also offers common ground to business leaders and managers able and willing to evaluate evidence with reasonable objectivity.

Members of the IOSH Council and senior officers would generally support the public status of the profession if they too based their public rhetoric more on relevant scientific understanding and displayed greater wisdom and smartness about labelling scientific research as 'bland'.

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