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scouse  
#1 Posted : 08 May 2010 12:36:40(UTC)
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scouse

My doctors surgery has no fire doors or smoke alarms only one fire exit at rear plus front door its a converted house ground floor first/ floor both floors used. Are there any regulations on this its been there for many years!!
Firesafetybod  
#2 Posted : 08 May 2010 15:16:52(UTC)
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Firesafetybod

Hi Scouse
You may find this link useful as a start
http://www.parliament.uk...rs/2009/DEP2009-1809.pdf

Cheers
stephendclarke  
#3 Posted : 08 May 2010 17:05:13(UTC)
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stephendclarke

Hi,
The following link might also help:
http://www.communities.g...ents/fire/pdf/152119.pdf
Regards
Steve
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 08 May 2010 19:10:58(UTC)
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firesafety101

I'll take a chance on being helpful as opposed to just offering web addresses.

I can imagine the type of premises you mention and suggest that, with it being a converted house, travel distances will not be excessive therefore no need for compartmentation, hence no fire doors. Does the surgery run an appointment system? If so front and rear doors will be adequate as means of escape due to small numbers of people present. I know some of those people would be sick and possibly disabled but if they can get in they can get out.

The premises will be occupied by staff at all times visitors are there so I assume staff will have received some form of training in evacuating people in case of fire.

Does the staircase to the upper floor terminate near the exit at ground floor level? If so that part of the means of escape will probably be satisfactory.

I think being in the line of work you are you should have a better understanding of what is required than us who have never seen the premises, do you have anything to do with the surgery on a work basis? Can you ask to see the current fire risk assessment?
Why not ask a member of staff a few pertinent questions i.e. what would they do in case of fire? How would they alert people to a fire? etc.

With it being open to the public I think you will be entitled to a few answers.




PhilBeale  
#5 Posted : 18 May 2010 15:47:21(UTC)
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PhilBeale

Hi Scouse

It does seem odd to be registered with an interest in fire risk management and not be able to at least answer partly your own question.

To me other than what Chris has said they may possible have the need for manual call points as the property is over two floors to my mind it would not be realistic for somone to shout fire and everyone in every part of the building to be able hear it. especially with all those horrible drilling noise you get in dentists.

For more information you will need to refer to the regulatory reform fire order or better still have a look at this document.

http://www.communities.g...ons/fire/firesafetyrisk9

It's free to download. of course you could ask if they have a fire risk assessment if they give you a blank look then you can inform them they need one by law, and then you have done your good deed for the day.

Phil
MaxPayne  
#6 Posted : 18 May 2010 15:57:32(UTC)
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MaxPayne

Get a new doctor....simples :-)
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