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robertsinfo  
#1 Posted : 12 May 2010 10:44:43(UTC)
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HI All,

I have just been appointed as Health and Safety Co Coordinator for a low risk manufacturing company with around 180 employees. They have not had a Health and Safety position for around four years and have just the basics put in place eg policy statement, etc. My question is where the hell do I start? They have no risk assessments, no training records, any set way of recording stats etc. Should I just start from scratch ( but then what are priorities) or try to revive what little is in place/ any advice would be appreciated.
amorris  
#2 Posted : 12 May 2010 10:52:05(UTC)
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amorris

Hi Roberts,

Co Coordinator - a stammer or a two person role? :-)

First question is always - do you need any training - are you competent to do the job. If so, you start from the policy and build up the management system.

Sounds like you already are starting from scratch.... I would suggest risk assessments are a priority - they will inform the training needs and statistics. The policy may need to be reviewed as well.

I'd also suggest some floor walking - if they haven't had someone in post for some time, the chances are you'll find some fairly bad practices on the floor - these will give you a list of priorities for tackling through RA.

Hope this helps a little.
stevedm  
#3 Posted : 12 May 2010 10:52:17(UTC)
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stevedm

Start from the risk assessments, get those scoped out and a plan for completing them.
Jane Blunt  
#4 Posted : 12 May 2010 10:56:05(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

Another useful line of action is to approach the most senior member of staff who appears to be ready to listen and explain the problem.

You might then be able to persuade him/her to go on a one-day course for directors.

This can then result in them deciding that others need to share their new-found understanding of their legal position!
RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 12 May 2010 10:58:33(UTC)
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RayRapp

Where to start will to some degree depend on your experience and knowledge in health and safety. If you feel competent then you might as well start from scratch and write a company h&s manual, which should include risk assessment procedure, PPE, incident reporting and investiagtion, first aid etc.

Alternatively you may consider recruiting a h&s consultant to set up the policies and procedures which you will then manage on a regular basis. I think it would be worth discussing these matters with a responsible person from your company or the person who nominated you as h&s co-ordinator. It should not be all your responsibility, you are not the duty holder.
Kate  
#6 Posted : 12 May 2010 11:07:00(UTC)
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Kate

I've been in a similar situation. I agree that risk assessments are important but I don't think you should just dive into doing them. People aren't used to having an H&S Coordinator and your role will not be clear to them (and maybe isn't even to you) and they must know little or nothing about risk assessment. So the two things to do first: find out what the main issues are (by discusssing with people at all levels as well as accident records and general observation), and (concurrently) get in with the influential people and sell them the idea of risk assessment. Then you can work out how to set about the risk assessment programme - starting with who is going to do them. If there isn't a safety committee then setting one up could be a big help.
chris.packham  
#7 Posted : 12 May 2010 11:19:53(UTC)
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chris.packham

I would agree with Kate. Start by trying to establish the status quo. What are their accident/health records like and what do they tell you? (Assuming they have any records, that is!) Then a simple walk through the site and chatting to those in the workplace will tell you a great deal about standards, processes, procedures, attitudes, etc. You say it is a 'low risk manufacturing company' but give no idea as to what they do. If you aren't familiar with the processes or activities you will also need to find out more about these before really starting to try to put policies, systems, etc. in place. Then perhaps the next step will be to put together some form of outline campaign and get this signed off by senior management. This should help to eliminate any resistance to having someone new in health and safety trying to make changes, etc.

Chris
SP900308  
#8 Posted : 12 May 2010 11:41:44(UTC)
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SP900308

Hi Robert,

Brings back memories!

Be careful that you don't become the 'H&S Island' and anything H&S 'belongs to you.' Establish some in-house training, this will give you an insight into workforce / management understanding of H&S and would provide you with opportunity to enlighten them as necessary.

Remember also to be Firm, Fair and Friendly!

Good luck
Simon
Victor Meldrew  
#9 Posted : 12 May 2010 11:44:54(UTC)
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Complete a base-line audit along the lines of HSG65, and accompanied with a physical conditions tour/chat with fellow employees you should then produce a prioritised Action Plan. work your way through that accordingly.
Ron Hunter  
#10 Posted : 12 May 2010 12:03:22(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Start with Fire Safety?
Reed21854  
#11 Posted : 12 May 2010 16:43:28(UTC)
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Reed21854

Hi there

When I first started in my role - similar situation to yours - I made a list of all the obvious gaps e.g. no recorded risk assessments, what were the main hazards so priorities for risk assessment, no health and safety committee, training gaps, accident reporting and investigation, missing safety procedures etc. We are not a unionised organisation so I asked each department to volunteer a staff safety rep - I trained the reps and line managers in work place inspection, risk assessment, DSE assessment etc so I had some eyes and ears out there doing things for me and then wrote a buisness plan for the next 3 years so I had a direction to aim in. A year and a half down the road I'm almost on track with the plan and have acheived a surprising leap forward in terms of safety culture. Don't be daunted, getting people on your side is key and reminding managers and Driectors of their responsibilities and getting their buy is also critical. And most importantly keep smiling!!
pete48  
#12 Posted : 12 May 2010 17:51:36(UTC)
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pete48

Whilst I accept the need to eventually establish some formal, but dynamic and relevant, systems I would nonetheless:

Forget the paper just now. Walk,look, listen, question.
Are they regularly killing or seriously injuring employees?
What sort of "accidents" do shop-floor staff remember? How many of those can you find in the accident records?
Is there anything that really frightens you when walking around?
Is there any process that you don't understand?
Tackle what becomes obvious from that start, then start on the HSG65 stuff and risk assessments if it still feels the right thing to do.

Remember, if they are not actually killing people or having serious accidents every day then they are doing a lot of good stuff, they probably just don't make the H&S connection. You need to help them capture that and develop it into more formalised, recorded procedure and practice.
Rushing to impose "formal risk based safety" with reams of records and demands to train people in just about everything that they have been doing for the past 20 years can, and usually does, easily result in a far worse situation than might exist today.

The reality is that many companies only have basic stuff and most of the rest includes more lip service than belief or achievement. (oh dear is that a generalism?)

I would also ask the senior managers where they want to position the company on H&S. Bare minimum to meet the law, best practice, industry leaders, "am I really bothered" and so on. That will help you to match your recommendations to their objectives.

Good luck.

p48
blodwyn  
#13 Posted : 13 May 2010 11:24:38(UTC)
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blodwyn

Undertake a gap analysis - what is there, who knows what, training undertaken - then review things such as accidents which might indicate some trends which could help you identify a starting position. Equally get a copy of the HSE essentials book and work your way through that using each chapter as a prompt - you wont go far wrong if you are a low risk business. But for the gap analysis you could get some outside help - for example if you are a member of a trade organisation they may as part of your memebership be able to help you here.
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