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SBH  
#1 Posted : 16 May 2010 09:18:52(UTC)
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SBH

I am coming across loads of these which have been painted over, maybe they will still operate once the paint melts etc but will they be as effective, should they be replaced.

SBH
Betta Spenden  
#2 Posted : 16 May 2010 10:05:14(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

They can no longer be considered as "acceptable" for use.

They need replacing, as does the painter/contractor responsible.

Expensive little mistakes like this are made to test us.
bleve  
#3 Posted : 16 May 2010 11:56:33(UTC)
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bleve

At this time there is no evidence that overpainting of intumescent seals has any detrimental effect on performance. There is evidence that there are some benefits in overpainting the seals as they are
less likely to absorb atmospheric moisture. However, there are limits on how much paint can be applied without there being a risk of the seal being rendered inoperative. It is recommended that overpainting be
limited to a maximum of five coats of conventional oil-bound paint or varnish.

Phil H  
#4 Posted : 16 May 2010 11:59:13(UTC)
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Phil H


I have researched this topic before and found some advice on the Firsesafe website which under 'decoration' heading states that it is acceptable to paint under certain circumstances and conditions


http://www.firesafe.org....tml/fsequip/firedoor.htm
Betta Spenden  
#5 Posted : 16 May 2010 14:26:38(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Two good answers above, both acceptable when considering fire risk management. BUT, do you know how many coats of paint are on them. Can you ensure that no more than 5 coats will EVER be applied.

What about damage done during the preparation work on the door, ie from heat guns and sanding. Both "can" have a detremental effect on the seal, but paint covers a mulitude of sins so you may not know.

There are too many ifs and buts, so I always advise to replace them if painted over. At the end of the day, there's only one way to find out. Have a fire and see. If you have less than 5 coats or you meet the special circumstances, maybe you will be OK. If not...............
bleve  
#6 Posted : 16 May 2010 15:24:17(UTC)
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bleve

Cut into the door frame with a penknife and count the paint layers.

Sanding of the intumescent profile is readily recognisable.

Heat gun over strip, section of strip subjected to heat will expand.

As a rule of thumb, if you can see the grain pattern through the paint coating there would be less than 5 coats.
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