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As most of you know huge oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Massive cleanup effort is supposed to be starting soon. In the USA federal regulations are in place to protect the cleanup workers (OSHA- specifically 29CFR 1910.120 can be viewed at http://www.osha.gov/pls/...=standards&p_id=9765)
What regulations would cover cleanup works if it were a cleanup on UK shores, and would those regulations provide better protection? Why?
looking for a lively discussion...and to learn.
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Gray, interesting question. Given that the two countries have completely different legal systems and government organisation structures it is not easy to make direct comparisons IMO.
In the UK, I would expect to see the Marine and Coastguard Agency, The Environment Agency and Local Authoritites leading any government response. They all have emergency plans which include outline risk assessments for known hazards in such situations. http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/chapter_9.pdf for example.
These would in theory provide the s.w.p. The duty on employers to protect their employees is covered by HASAWA and other Acts and Regulations.
There is a National Contingency Plan for Marine Pollution which outlines what happens in such extreme circumstances. (One of the recommendations from the Torrey Canyon way back when I was a young sprog)
And various agencies (e.g the MCGA via SOSREP) have powers of intervention that they can use when relevant.
Would it be any better if it were happening here? Who knows, in my experience it is the calibre and professionalism of the people planning and implementing the response that makes the difference between glory and derision, not the law.
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Thanks, your first part did describe what we have going on, just different organizations. There is a national contingency plan and each region (state) has a plan, they are integrated to a certain respect. Response is a massive mobilization effort. The agency(s) have established a unified command, including the responsible party -web site at http://www.deepwaterhori...sponse.com/go/site/2931/
Federal OSHA is poking around and “offering” assistance but the do not clean up oil spills and cannot take charge. Environmental (EPA) is doing studies and controlling permits ect, but not actually cleaning the shore, Coast Guard is likely the most active but mostly in the water. The Responsible party will be controlling the clean up, hiring workers and training them, deploying them in to control zones and supervising them. Think you are right about people implementing the response, it is crucial. We both know it does not matter what side of the Atlantic you are on when it comes to compliance with law. There is a huge difference and it goes from company to company. So if we were in full compliance with our respective laws, what would each one look like?
You mentioned a “s.w.p? not sure what that is, but if we take the task of cleaning weathered crude oil from shore side boulders- our rules in a generic sense would require:
Written plan for the area and task specific written plan (JSA)
Written site emergency plan with rescue and first aid provisions
New technology evaluation procedures prior to wide scale use
Workers have to be trained in hazards (contaminate and work site) and how to protect themselves
Zones established [such as red (gross contaminated) yellow (possible contaminated) green (no known contamination) white (everywhere else)] Positive control of zones.
Use incident command system to control zones, workers and rescuers if needed.
Is this similar? Thanks!
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Gray, yes indeed. Sometimes there is only one way to skin a rabbit eh?
Sorry about the jargon. swp is my shorthand for "safe working practice". Matches near enough to your JSA, based on some generic stuff that can be pre-prepared but always subject to scrutiny and check risk assessment to match each specific event.
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Gray, whoops pressed the button too soon. A bit of bedtime reading for you at 122 pages. You can find a copy of the National Contingency Plan here.
A quick scan of the index will give you some idea of the scale and detail.
http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga-contin.pdf
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pete48 wrote:...You can find a copy of the National Contingency Plan here.
A quick scan of the index will give you some idea of the scale and detail...p48
Thanks, that helps, especially when it is framed with legal context. Seems from this document that the UK governmental response is prime in concert with the local government, and that the responsible party does not seem to be much involved? Other than the polluter pays.
The USA has the same type of plan/guidance, and it was also started due to the Torrey Canyon. It is at http://www.epa.gov/oem/c...ent/lawsregs/ncpover.htm Just in case you need help to sleep, and in light of the time difference…
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