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johnpearson32  
#1 Posted : 26 May 2010 15:35:22(UTC)
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johnpearson32

Is it a al egal requirement to have banksman trained by an accredditted body or can you develop your own training package. Thoughts will be much appreciatted
MaxPayne  
#2 Posted : 26 May 2010 15:46:35(UTC)
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MaxPayne

Quick response which may be challenged by others... Not a legal requirement other than you having to ensure competency of the banksman. You'll need to do that and risk assess the activity along with developing safe systems of work and communicating those. A lot of training providers provide certificates with expiry dates; be wary of these as most see this as an opportunity to retrain which isn't always necessary if the task is part of the day to day work, and the operator remains competent. You've not given any detail on what the banksman would be dealing with or where.
Reed21854  
#3 Posted : 26 May 2010 16:03:09(UTC)
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Reed21854

Hi there we've done it in house - using the HSE signs and signals video which you can download for free, and we've put together a presentation covering some other important bits and pieces. But if you're working in the wonderful world of construction then a PC may want to see an "accredited" course - but this is not a legal requirement.
bob youel  
#4 Posted : 26 May 2010 16:10:25(UTC)
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bob youel

I think that the term 'banksman' is no longer referenced in the transport industry where the person is not working re LOLER; and that is the point as in-house training must be up to date and can be perfectly acceptable provided its suitable and sufficient, presented by a competent presenter who can prove understanding via the trainees and where it should be properly accredited as per first aid training it is accredited Additionally any 'client' that you may work for may set out in their tender or their rules that only accredited persons are allowed
edwardh  
#5 Posted : 26 May 2010 16:17:51(UTC)
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edwardh

I agree with MaxPayne. It is important that your banksmen are not just trained in the generic risks and precautions, but are also are trained in the specific safe system of work that you have implemented on your site. If an external trainer can cover both that is OK, if not, then you are likely to be having to do some training in-house in any case. Just as important as training the banksman is making sure the vehicle drivers are competent to work with your banksmen. Do they know when they must have a banksman? how to identify the banksman? the meanings of the signals? what should they do if they lose sight of the banksman? If you have lots of visiting drivers this can be a real headache! Also make it clear to the rest of your workers: who are the authorised banksman, and that they mustn't try to help unless authorised.
Steve Sedgwick  
#6 Posted : 26 May 2010 16:52:58(UTC)
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Steve Sedgwick

If you can design and run a professional training session in-house with your own staff then there is nothing wrong with that. If you have any doubts on the above then bring in a HS Consultant but make him/her demonstrate competence first. The training does not need to be accredited. Heres some pointers http://www.paper.org.uk/...0street%20collection.pdf Steve
amorris  
#7 Posted : 27 May 2010 15:34:35(UTC)
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amorris

Hi, I used to run our own in house course at a national logistics company. But, to make sure I was comfortable running it, I took part in a RoSPA Banksman assessor/instructor training course - so I was certificated to train. Found the course useful, if for no other reason than to bounce ideas of the trainer.... No legal requirement to do so, but just thought it was a reasonable thing to do! Hope this helps A.
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