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We have commisioned a demoliton asbestos survey (ensuring the company where competent to do the survey) on a building soon to be knocked down. We are looking to appoint a demolition contractor on an all risk contract (contractor pays) with regards to any unforseen asbestos that is discovered during the works. Are there any legal implications in getting the contracator to sign up to an all risk contract?
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No legal implications if you can get a contractor to sign up to taking possession on this basis. You have completed a Demolition Asbestos survey and have thus gone as far as you can without knocking down the building but the price will certainly be loaded and you are likely to end up paying for what may be a relatively low risk of further ACMs - it really does depend on the structure whether such a move is economic or not.
Bob
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And in addition; if found the asbestos is still yours so the 'producer pays' situation comes in and you cannot pass across this liability in a contract
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Thanks Bob
Can you state the legal duty that would overide the contract, that the Principal Contractor is willing to sign up to include for the removal of any additional asbestos outside of the demolition asbestos survey.
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You did not define which Bob you were addressing!!!:-)
Unlike BY I hold a strict interpretation of the CAR dutyholder definitions - once the PC has taken control of the site he becomes the manager of all ACMs present (controller of premises via a contract). I know a number of PCs who have fallen foul of this when they failed to make proper inquiries re asbestos presence before taking possession of the site.
You have, as you say, completed a Demolition Asbestos Survey and provided this to the contractor. At this point you would be at liberty to discuss the question of costing unknown works but please be aware that the cost of this approach may be out of proportion to any risk of materials being found. Without the survey there would be residual responsibilities on yourselves. It may thus be a breach simply to ask a contractor to tender to remove all ACMs found without supplying a demo. survey.
Bob
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