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alfi  
#1 Posted : 05 July 2010 08:59:28(UTC)
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alfi

Hi, if you are a landscaping company and just use over the counter weed killers, and employees are competant in use, there is no specials requirements other than COSHH is there?, i.e you need a license any advice appreciated
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 05 July 2010 11:16:47(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

MEden380  
#3 Posted : 05 July 2010 11:39:27(UTC)
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MEden380

Alfi If you pay someone to apply any pesticides / weed control chemicals, they must hold a Pesticide Application Certificate PA1 plus additional PA2/3/4/5/6 Certificate, depending on what they use to apply the chemical.
Dazzling Puddock  
#4 Posted : 05 July 2010 11:59:15(UTC)
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Dazzling Puddock

MEden380 wrote:
Alfi If you pay someone to apply any pesticides / weed control chemicals, they must hold a Pesticide Application Certificate PA1 plus additional PA2/3/4/5/6 Certificate, depending on what they use to apply the chemical.
Are you sure? I thought that this applies to professional products being applied and that a certificate of competence was not required for the application of hobby products, only suitable and sufficient training.
John D C  
#5 Posted : 05 July 2010 12:48:58(UTC)
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John D C

Alfi If you are using any pesticides as part of a professional activity, as appears to be the case here, then a certificate of competence is required. The following link has some flow charts that give you what you are looking for: http://www.pesticides.go...ts_-_Complete%20Code.pdf NB: the flow charts cover more than one page. Take care John C
Dazzling Puddock  
#6 Posted : 05 July 2010 13:15:30(UTC)
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Dazzling Puddock

johnc wrote:
Alfi If you are using any pesticides as part of a professional activity, as appears to be the case here, then a certificate of competence is required. The following link has some flow charts that give you what you are looking for: http://www.pesticides.go...ts_-_Complete%20Code.pdf NB: the flow charts cover more than one page. Take care John C
Are you sure? Flow chart 1 asks if the product you are applying is approved for hobby gardeners. If so then no certificate of competence is required. Professionals need certificates if applying professional products according to my understanding. I could be wrong though!!
John D C  
#7 Posted : 05 July 2010 14:05:03(UTC)
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John D C

Dazzling You are correct. If the product has been approved for home use then a certificate of competence is not required. I misread one of the charts. However the staff must be trained to safely use the products. take care John C
NickRoarty  
#8 Posted : 05 July 2010 21:53:22(UTC)
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NickRoarty

If the work is for commercial gain, a Certificate of Competence is required. The product being Approved for hobby use, is irrelevant
Dazzling Puddock  
#9 Posted : 06 July 2010 09:29:50(UTC)
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Dazzling Puddock

NickRoarty wrote:
If the work is for commercial gain, a Certificate of Competence is required. The product being Approved for hobby use, is irrelevant
That is not what the guidance states! Flow chart 1 asks; Is the product approved for people who garden as a hobby, or does it have an HSE registration number? If yes then a certificate of competence is not required!!
redken  
#10 Posted : 06 July 2010 09:37:33(UTC)
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redken

Post on the Your Freedom government website: Interior landscapers are currently not allowed to use commercial pesticides (i.e. ones with a MAPP number) as their terms of use only allow their use either outdoors or in commercial greenhouses. The process of changing the spec of any one chemical to allow interior landscaping use is beyond the resources of any individual company. rentokil tried once, and failed. However many of these chemicals have a commercial equivalent (e.g. Provado 'Bug Killer') which are quite effective and can be bought from any garden centre. These are labelled "for home and garden use only", so interior landscapers are not allowed to use them on a client's premises either. If caught it's the operator, not the company, that is liable too.
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