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lewes  
#1 Posted : 06 July 2010 16:39:20(UTC)
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lewes

We have a office based employee with limited mobility but there is a need for him to view the transport yard to look at stock vehicles. He is suggesting the use of a mobility scooter. I am thinking along the lines of: - Risk Assessment - Use of designated walkway - Flashing Beacon - User Hi-Viz - Reversing alarm Any other thoughts ???
DaveDaniel  
#2 Posted : 06 July 2010 17:19:21(UTC)
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DaveDaniel

My Dad's scooter came as standard with lights, horn and a reversing bleeper. He drives it safely around town in and out of pedestrians without High-Vis/Flashing light, although if you've got vehicle movement..... There are issues with slopes and ramps as these things aren't that stable. The larger heavier ones are much better. There are recognised training courses although most domestic users aren't trained. I guess they're no more dangerous than a kid's pushbike to other pedestrians or users.
Mick Noonan  
#3 Posted : 06 July 2010 17:29:55(UTC)
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Mick Noonan

Why not apply the same rules that you would to a motorised wheelchair?
stevie40  
#4 Posted : 06 July 2010 22:21:09(UTC)
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stevie40

What is the condition of the yard like? Rough terrain or smooth concrete hardstanding? When you say he needs to look at stock vehicles, how close does he need to go and would this necessitate departure from the walkway? You say "stock vehicle" - is this a car or truck dealership? What is the volume of vehicle movement on site like? Who drives the stock vehicles - own staff or delivery drivers / contractors? I'm not sure i would consider a domestic mobility scooter as suitable work equipment. My main concerns would be :- - Lack of any form of rollover protection. Yard condition and ramps / slopes will be a factor here. - Size in relation to other vehicles on site. If these are HGVs or vans, the drivers are unlikely to be alert to the possible presence of a slow moving scooter within the stock areas. A golf type buggy like you see in airports might be a better solution.
lewes  
#5 Posted : 07 July 2010 13:13:58(UTC)
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lewes

Thanks for all feedback. Just to give more information: It is a truck and van dealership with a smooth concrete hardstanding. There are reasonable vehicle movements on site, designated walkways to most area, a speed bump just inside the gate to control speed with no slopes.
m  
#6 Posted : 07 July 2010 13:17:43(UTC)
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m

lewes wrote:
It is a truck and van dealership with a smooth concrete hardstanding.
How do you deal with visitors in mobility scooters? Can you prevent vehicle movements when he is out and about?I think the main hazard would be from moving vehicles. I think the user should have a loud horn (hand held air horn?) and maybe one of those masts you see on cycles and trailers.
lewes  
#7 Posted : 07 July 2010 13:37:53(UTC)
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lewes

You dont tend to get to many people on mobility scooters coming to a truck dealership !!!! There is generally good visibility on site. What is your thinking behind the handheld horn, in the event of sudden impact or to use frequently around site like a reversing alarm on a truck?? I am thinking maybe a beacon like on this motorbike. http://www.ukemergency.c...k/ambulance/dscd0989.jpg
Ron Hunter  
#8 Posted : 07 July 2010 15:46:58(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Unbelievable. Would you insist on beacons and reversing alarms for a wheelchair user too? A certain episode of 'The Office' springs to mind.
lewes  
#9 Posted : 07 July 2010 16:26:13(UTC)
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lewes

Ron I take it youre not in agreement then. What are your thoughts then ?? Surely a site with large HGV's this is a sensible solution
Mick Noonan  
#10 Posted : 07 July 2010 16:57:40(UTC)
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Mick Noonan

Agree with Ron and his sanity. As I said above, treat the issue like it's a wheelchair user. First though, I'd review the scooter itself and determine if it is in fact an appropriate. Research it.
Ron Hunter  
#11 Posted : 08 July 2010 13:07:09(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

lewes, my reaction related to the DDA and dignity aspects. If your colleague only has to 'view' vehicles in the yard, have you considered use of CCTV or other remote video solutions?
PhilBeale  
#12 Posted : 08 July 2010 13:19:02(UTC)
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PhilBeale

Could he not use his own car to drive around in? we had a guy work at our old site who was on the large side he couldn't walk more than 30 meters with out having to stop and looked as if he was going to pass out. In the end he used his car to drive around the site which surprisingly enough was a large part of his job to visit different areas of the site (it was a 22 acre site). If someone was in a wheelchair then they would be strictly kept out of the yard where there would be vehicle movements. i agree with the DDA but you need to ensure you aren't also putting lives at risk and someone in a wheelchair work in such areas is surely going to end in disaster. Lewes What does this guy need to go and check or how close does he need to get to the vehicles this might help answer the question rather than taking wild stabs in the dark at a possible solution. Phil
lewes  
#13 Posted : 08 July 2010 13:50:59(UTC)
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lewes

Again, thanks for everyone's opinion. All very welcome and really the purpose of why I posted the question as wanted to hear various opinions. I hadnt thought about him using his own/company vehicle on site. Its not a massive site but noting the size of the vehicles I would be happier. We have a routine visit with the HSE on Monday so will put the question to them.
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