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Phillips20760  
#1 Posted : 13 August 2010 15:47:37(UTC)
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Phillips20760

Under DSE, anyone who is deemed a 'user' is entitled to an eye test provided by the company. Also, under DSE, if spectacles are deemed necessary, soley and specifically for VDU's, than the employer should bear the cost. We get the optician to sign a form to this effect so we know who, if anyone, is entitled to money off their prescription. Up to now, nobody has been entitled to this.... My question is, are many people actually entitled to spectacles? Surely if you need glasses to read a VDU screen 60cms away you'll need them to read a newspaper, book, sign, or control panel at a similar distance. If that's the point then its catch 22 as the glasses aren't "specifically" for VDU's. Confused Hope I haven't rambled - it's Friday and I've a load of admin workers angry at not getting £40 towards this years prescription. Under previous management, and interpretation of the regulations, every DSE user was given £40 towards glasses. Regards, Ian (P.S. I know about the common voucher scheme, and this is probably a route we'll go down, but if we do won't they refuse prescription contribution too......)
Canopener  
#2 Posted : 13 August 2010 16:51:03(UTC)
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Canopener

From the hip and without reference to anything. Yes, we do have a few users that have been assessed as requiring a prescription for VDU glasses. The ACoP says says approx 10% of users may need them, I my experience a few less. The VDU distance is classed as being in the mid or intermediate range, rather than the reading range which is closer.
cantona  
#3 Posted : 13 August 2010 16:54:22(UTC)
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cantona

The problem is that if the optician is not aware that the person is a 'dse user' and they prescribe glasses, the person wrongly assumes that the employer should pay for these. However the employer only has a duty to pay/reimburse money for the cheapest pair of spectatcles whcih are solely for working with DSE. Therefoere IMO the numerous (and very cost-effective) voucher schemes are beneficial becuase the optomotrist will complete the eye test knowing that the person is a dse user and therefore certify if they need glasses solely for working with dse - if they do the voucher in most cases covers the cost of the specs and if a more desirable pair is required they pay for the difference. Regards
Clairel  
#4 Posted : 13 August 2010 16:56:18(UTC)
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Clairel

I seem to be having the opposite problem with a voucher scheme in operation but the opticians ticking the box for eyewear required for DSE use even when eyewear is required for general use. I'm looking at other options. If staff get the hump because we won't contribute anymore then tough. We're not a charity. A very small percentage of people only need glasses for VDU use (I thought it was much less than 10% more like 1%) and I don't think an employer should pay for all the people who would need glasses anyway. Boy I'm a hard woman!!
jwk  
#5 Posted : 13 August 2010 16:57:08(UTC)
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jwk

To cover the circumstances in Cantona's post we give our employees a letter they take to the optician which clearly states that a Regulation 5 eyetest is required. That way we avoid the misunderstandings but don't have to administer a voucher scheme, John
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 13 August 2010 19:44:55(UTC)
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Canopener

We have been using a voucher scheme from a certain high street chain for some years, and I can't be more positiive about my experience with them. Very easy, simple admin (no letters required) very cost effective, paying less now than we did with local opticial 10 years ago. The majority of staff are more than happy, some do get 'classified' as needing glasses and get them, others are happy with the discount offered if they need specs but not for VDUs. I can't really think of anything 'negative' about the scheme so far. They also do a similar scheme for safety eye wear, and if I had a significant need for that I don't think I would hesitate. My experience of another voucher scheme was less positive!
Canopener  
#7 Posted : 13 August 2010 19:48:55(UTC)
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Canopener

JWK - I will just say that the admin of the voucher scheme is sooooooooooo easy. I can order vouchers for 100 people or 1001 people and pay ONE invoice. Or I can administrate and pay for 100 people or 1001 people seperately. No brainer to me.
antbruce001  
#8 Posted : 13 August 2010 21:40:20(UTC)
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antbruce001

Getting back to the original question. Yes some people do require glasses for VDUs and not for genral use. the purpose of the VDU gigs is to reduce the likelyhood of eye strain and not to correct a eye sight problem. Although the analogy you provide appears valid, books, newspaper etc, are not backlit, and you don't normally have to spend many hours intently viewing them day in and day out. It's the criteria for being a user thats selects individuals forced to spend hours staring at the screen and its the eye test that determines if gigs will help to reduce eye strain and its associated problems. Hope this helps, Tony
Phillips20760  
#9 Posted : 16 August 2010 13:25:20(UTC)
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Phillips20760

Thanks for your responses. Boy, I was in a bad mood on Friday! Ian
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