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Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#1 Posted : 17 August 2010 09:47:39(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

I’ve been asked to look at sickness absence monitoring for our small company of around fourty employees to monitor unauthorised absences etc. Trying to be a professional I’m acknowledging I haven’t the foggiest idea where to start. So, all suggestions and physical examples to show me how its' done would be appreciated. Badger
firestar967  
#2 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:03:58(UTC)
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My company uses a system called the Bradford Scale to monitor sickness and uses a point scoring system. It shows a higher score for the employees taking the odd day off regularly then someone who takes a week off. There is plenty on the Web about this method, so may be of use.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#3 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:17:12(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Thanks firestar, I've read a little on this Bradford scale which left me confused over the scoring. Badger
firestar967  
#4 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:34:47(UTC)
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Don’t I know it I had to programme it into the company’s database! Formula’s not too hard though B = S2 x D (B = Bradford Scale, S = Sick Spells, D = Days) so someone takes 5 days sick in one go: 1 x 1 x 5 = 5 whereas some takes five single days sick: 5 x 5 x 5 = 125.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#5 Posted : 17 August 2010 12:08:40(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Susssed it Paul, I thought from from the initial equation I saw it was sickness times two and couldn't see where the x2 was being used, but have now realised it is sickness squared which helps clear my confusion. Now to try and produce a working example. Badger
RayRapp  
#6 Posted : 17 August 2010 12:20:54(UTC)
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Barrie Just a thought, monitoring sickness is all very well from a health perspective, but as h&s practitioner you need to be sure you are not straying into HR domain ie absenteeism, which is a different matter altogether. Ray
Seamusosullivan  
#7 Posted : 17 August 2010 12:26:25(UTC)
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I agree with Ray
Canopener  
#8 Posted : 17 August 2010 12:34:03(UTC)
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We use Bradford and while it is not perfect it is a reasonable tool for helping to deal with the 'frequent' short term absences. I suggest that you work with HR and not only deal with absenteeism but also consider presenteeism! However, your post mentions unauthorised absences. They are just that - unauthorised and should be dealt with through the normal discplinary process. Barrie - I have been drafting our new policy that takes into account factors thrown up by the new Med 3. If you would like a look at an anonymised (is that a real word) version subject to the normal rules on discretion. Please pm me with an e mail adddress if interested.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#9 Posted : 17 August 2010 16:22:48(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Whilst away from the forum I've found with the help of another member a site plus HSE research report 310 suggestions of free down loadable sites and absence catogories. Will report back once I've dug around them to see if they are any good. Of course all commentry will be totally non biased and for the information of the forum to use as they see fit ... thought to get that in just in case I forget next time. Thanks for everyone's thoughts on the subject. Badger
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#10 Posted : 18 August 2010 09:41:08(UTC)
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As promised herewith the output from my research. It’s funny how easy it is to find something once you’ve been pointed in the right direction. 1. First up is a programme from the HSE and is free to use on www.hse.gov.uk/sicknessabsence/sart/ this is the downloadable programme which you need to sign into on the HSE’s web pages. Apparently you need Access 2007 to run it and I didn’t on my home pc so I reverted to HSE research report 310 where I found the initial link that showed how this programme works and cross link www.iom-world.org/sicknessabsence/index.htm as a user interface. The HSE research report 310 carries a lot of useful information with regards to illness and is worth persevering with through the 200+ pages. 2. The next is also a free programme available from www.cipd.co.uk/subjects/...e/absmantool?vanity=http://www.cipd.co.uk/absencemanagementtool this programme had issues on my pc and wouldn’t load, but that may be a local issue as opposed to an overall problem. 3. Finally www.onsafelines.com/smart-home-page.html appears to be a excel spreadsheet affair and easy to use if conversant with the spreadsheet ways. To keep the web site going a small donation is requested and for that you will receive up dates to the downloaded programme. Hope the above is useful to someone and suggest IOSH have a useful web site tab put up for those searching for specific items like those I’ve provided. Badger
KieranD  
#11 Posted : 18 August 2010 10:21:36(UTC)
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Ray has identified a quite important issue about the boundary between 'HR' and OSH. The boudary is one of professional training, accreditationi and affiliation: HR practitioners can trace their national professional society back to 1913 while OSH practitioners are more 'recent' as an occupational group since the IOSH came alive in 1945. Last year, the CIPD introduced a toral redesign of its entry path to full membership and probably now has the most cuttingedge process of accreditation of all professions introduced in the last century. At the same time, there is no legal boundary around work in the area of HR, not even the loosely defined concept of 'competent person'. While it may be unconventional for an OSH practitioner to montior absenteeism, the relevant legal tripwire simply concerns his or her 'competence'. In the light of Ray's observations, arguably appropriate professional competence about absence monitoring involves more than downloading tools from websites because associated management actions may have far-reaching implications associated with employees' contracts, including matters about discipline, grievance and reward and quite possibly intricaies about different kinds of discriminatio. Yet an adequate level of competence may be developed by reading relevant chapters in one of the better texts on employment law which provide not simply details of relevant statutes but also comments on relevant case law associated with judicial decisions; they're very well-written and supported by up-to-date material on the websites of publlishers.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#12 Posted : 18 August 2010 11:25:32(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Barrie(Badger)Etter wrote:
I’ve been asked to look at sickness absence monitoring for our small company of around fourty employees to monitor unauthorised absences etc. Trying to be a professional I’m acknowledging I haven’t the foggiest idea where to start.
Keiran, with reference to my original posting above, I'm sticking my paw up and saying I don't know, information and help please. That said once I've gathered together relevant information it will be passed to our finance dept who normally look after this sort of thing, so the policy example and web sites pm'd to me by other forum members (thank you guys) have been found to be very useful and I've learnt some thing along the way. I also acknowledge your comments and say that I would think many Safety Professionals working in SME's are occasionally called upon to act as personnel officers (HR by today's standards) and whilst that rarely happens where I work at present, I thought to ask pertient questions. Badger
Welch27819  
#13 Posted : 18 August 2010 19:17:15(UTC)
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Welch27819

With regards to On Safe Lines SMART absenteeism programme; One of the unique features of SMART is that although it is fundamentally a database application it will look and feel like a spreadsheet application to many users. Each matrix making use of columns and rows for user data inputting. Key Features of SMART integrated into this FREE programme include; * Easy to set up, maintain an input data. * Comprehensive records of employee sickness records, both current and historical * Intelligent trend analysis on employee sickness, including; - 10 or more days of sickness in 52 weeks - 2 or more occurrences off sickness in the last 13 weeks - 2 or more occurrences off sickness in any 13-week period in the last 52 weeks - 5 or more separate sickness in a 52 week period - 5 or more continuous days off with sickness in a 52 week period - Comprehensive reports that cover all aspects of employees sickness and sickness trends. - Comprehensive statistics on sickness figures - Historical sickness records are maintained for the employees working career with your company. - Monitor employees on sickness disciplinary, from first warning to dismissal SMART also has a downloadable populated demo to show new companies just what the programme is capable of doing for them. Why would you pay when this programme is freeware?
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