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By one film critic,'The most realalistic of gore ever put on film' as Aron Ralston (a mountaineer ) cuts his own arm off to free himself from a fallen boulder whilst climbing.
Why not apply this method in company H&S presentations/inductions. But using real life gore of an industrial
accident/injury. Told by the injured party. As how there injury came to be.
Putting H&S into perspective, of what can & does happen when H&S procedures are ignored and/or
unnecessary risks are taken. By either, employee or employer or both.
If there are any companies that have and do use this method of accident awareness & a means of reducing
work related injuries/fatalities, what is the response and results?
What are your views on this approach?
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Thirst it is a method I have thought of, particularly in the early stages of my career. Shock tactics generally work for a period,like using severe eye injury pictures to encourage the wearing of glasses in industry. The Bradford fire is one such incident that is used on many training courses and I know the Lockerbie bombing was a video used for paramedics training videos a few years ago to prepare them for their future career.
However caution must be taken before going down this route as to what the individuals taking the course/training may have experienced previously. An employee with the company I now work for was taking part in a forklift training course, part of which was a video showing the effects of not wearing a seat belt when driving which turned out to be quite graphic and the employee broke down and could no longer take part in the course as it evoked too many memories of his brother who had been killed in similar circumstances on a fork lift 2 years before.
The main concern is whether the videos methods are ethically correct for public consumption, which I,m sure will draw many responses. The main aim of any training is to get the information provided to stick which can only be measured by either examination or observation of practices after the course
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So when the risk assessment suggests a trapping hazard will you provide a large meat cleaver to enable the trapped person to release themselves?
Good idea for lone workers.
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IMHO, you must know your audience, their history and experiences, very well before going for the gore-fest approach. It can be counter-productive in some instances.
The HSE's Asbestos video ('how are you today') is perhaps a good example. It tends to backfire as a training resource as many of those watching will have been too closely affected, and the emotions generated will greatly detract from any other messages you may hope to deliver on that same session.
If it's too real, it will deeply affect some people.
I recall people leaving the room when that video was shown, and they didn't (couldn't) come back in.
Be careful - everyone has their own limits, life experiences and sensitivities.
The motives and rationale of the block-busting film industry are not necessarily always transferable to the H&S training environment. There are some good video resources out there mind, which manage to demonstrate a serious incident in some detail, but avoiding the gore.
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I saw the B&Q fire marshal video again recently.
The whole thing had a huge effect on me the first time, and it wasn't diminished much by the repeat.
The final scene when this middle aged women says 'Never again' and shakes her head slowly had more impact on me than the whole of the Bolton football stadium fire presentation.
Weird what you remember
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Rarely changes the "never happen to me " brigade.
Usually severly and adversely impacts someone on an emotional level.
Only ever changes behaviour in the short term.
Can only be effective if the individual is allowed by the workplace culture or societal demands to actually change their behaviour or attitude when they get back to reality.
Often heightens anxiety in those who already fear the illustrated consequences.
I guess you can see I am not in favour. I see it at best as a rough and ready means to challenge perceptions/beliefs and change behaviour. It can have a place in some environments but not as a general workplace approach.
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Hi all,
thankyou for your comments.-- I was only putting a suggestion forward from a shopfloor workers
point of view. (Of ) using actual physical gore of an industrial accident/injury. Told by the actual person,
as why & how there injury came to be. As this might change the way some people approach H&S-
procedures and H&S as a whole.
A live approach instead of watching the H&S video, a discussion then tick the box and sign, that you
fully understand what this H&S session is about and for. Why not think out of the box.
Show the true physical horrors and explain the effects it has on family members, when H&S procedures
are ignored and/or a lack of RA.
If either of these methods are to be used in accident/injury awareness and the consequences,a pre-warning
that this video/presentation is visually and verbally disturbing due to the contents
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ChrisBurns wrote:So when the risk assessment suggests a trapping hazard will you provide a large meat cleaver to enable the trapped person to release themselves?
Good idea for lone workers.
Hi Chris,
I was not suggesting a meat cleaver be issued to lone workers if they get trapped.
Just the aspect of true industrial accident gore told by the the injured party themselves. Putting the
the injuries into perspective, might change the way people think about H&S in the work place after seeing
and hearing what the individual has to say now about H&S, after the accident.
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Thirst,
Yes, good idea in the right place but be careful. Recently had a video used at work based on personal experiences of the safety officer whilst in the army. None of us had considered that some of the foreign workers might just be from the former Jugoslav states and had some not very positive memories of armed forces.
Also The Book of Heroic Failures has an entry for "the least successful safety video" featuring a hot metal splash in the eye that was so realistic that two people threw up and one fainted, the fall resulting in a wound requiring several stitches!
Hard hitting personal testimony usually best as it leaves the audience to imagine. What you imagine is usually worse than what you see, ask any good horror film writer or director.
Paul
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Hi Andy77,
I understand caution should&must be used when the contents of H&S videos or live presentations
may evoke memories of a family member or close work colleague who is present at the H&S training session.
But where is a/the line to be drawn on preventing fatalities/injuries in the workplace. A very difficult
decision for a H&S trainer to make, Yes, but he/she are only using past situations, highlighting what could &
does happen when H&S procedures are ignored and unnecessary risks are taken in the work place.
If either of these methods are used, but change the way people view and approach H&S in there daily
tasks and reduce accidents & injuries. Surely this can only be benifical to both company & employee??
A pre warning to the attendees of the H&S session, the contents of the presentation/video some may find
upsetting and if the trainer knows a family member close friend, a quite word as well.
My opinion may read, no feelings or considerations for who may be present or for people with not so a
strong stomach as others. But what is the priority, evoking memories or saving life's and preventing injuries?
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Thirst wrote:By one film critic,'The most realalistic of gore ever put on film' as Aron Ralston (a mountaineer ) cuts his own arm off to free himself from a fallen boulder whilst climbing.
Why not apply this method in company H&S presentations/inductions. But using real life gore of an industrial
accident/injury. Told by the injured party. As how there injury came to be.
Putting H&S into perspective, of what can & does happen when H&S procedures are ignored and/or
unnecessary risks are taken. By either, employee or employer or both.
If there are any companies that have and do use this method of accident awareness & a means of reducing
work related injuries/fatalities, what is the response and results?
What are your views on this approach?
There is at least one already out there 'Think what if, not if only, By Ken Woodward.
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Shock tactics has it's place, in certain circumstances. However I feel the best approach is to go further than the actual injury itself. Has anyone seen the 'Charlie Video'? It is a great video employed by many oil companies around the world. The video is a man who was seriously burnt with horrible consequences which are described only, but the main message was the effect it had on his life, how it caused so many problems with his family and mental state. It is a passionate and heartfelt presentation. I have been involved on many projects where this has been used and the outcome has been very positive.
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Shock tactics has it's place, in certain circumstances. However I feel the best approach is to go further than the actual injury itself. Has anyone seen the 'Charlie Video'? It is a great video employed by many oil companies around the world. The video is a man who was seriously burnt with horrible consequences which are described only, but the main message was the effect it had on his life, how it caused so many problems with his family and mental state. It is a passionate and heartfelt presentation. I have been involved on many projects where this has been used and the outcome has been very positive.
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