When carrying out removal of non licensed asbestos works, Will it be sufficient for a P402 trained surveyor to survey the non-licensed works to be carried out ? Thanks

If you look at asbestos essentials and the task manual then providing you comply for none licenced work I don't think there is no mention of a survey at all.

Thanks, will have a look at these

I think your use of the word "survey" is causing confusion here szone. You don't have to 'survey' it, you have to identify what it is. You seem to already know the product is a non-licensed removal product- or are you making an assumption? Then again , I've no idea what you mean by "texture-coated shed". I do hope you're not confusing asbestos cement sheets (non-licensed) with galbestos (limpet-sprayed metal sheeting - most definitely licensed work!). Incidentally, do you have a reason to remove it?

Thank you for the replies Ron and Claire. I am not referring to a specific task, I have been asked by a contractor who has 3 or 4 LA contracts (Not for asbestos) He asked me what he would require to remove non-licensed asbestos products from properties which the LA look after. I informed him that they would be required to undertake training in non-licensed asbestos work (which I have found). They already have asbestos awareness training so this should be sufficient in line with Clairel's information. The only thing I am not sure of is who would identify and create the job sheets for the works to be carried out. For example the LA will issue a job sheet stating what works need to be carried out for each premises. So in the case they need a shed removed containing asbestos cement (you were correct Ron) would the person creating the job sheet need to have some sort of asbestos surveying qualification and would the p402 suffice? The contractor is looking to create the sheets/surveys himself and then also remove the product himself as part of a LA contract. Sorry for the confusion and I hope this makes sense,

Ron, since when does the client have to specify work instructions? In many cases the client wouldn't have the knowledge to do such a thing. The onus is on the client to have an asbestos register (where there is asbestos present) and make that register available to any contractors. The client also has to ensure they have checked the competency of any contractor but it is down to the (competent) contractor to provide work instructions / SSoW / Ms's etc

That's what I said wasn't it Ron???

I had a similar issue recently... I got my guys onto a UKATA Catagory 2 (Google it) (refresh this every year), this is a HSE 'recommended' course for those who work with non licensed. Then went through HSG 210 with them. Got the right PPE etc. Wrote policies, SSoW and Risk Assessments. Then we were ready to roll.

Hiya Ron I would hope the view of ALU would be consistent with previously - especially as the 'incidental to main purpose' still resides in L143!! Oh how I wish I'd retained copies of the previous asbestos assessment, supported by personal and background monitoring, when I was involved in a number projects (not notified - as per ALU advice). We had a similar job at a later date where the galbestos was fire damaged and became a totally different animal - notified but couldn't be realistically enclosed. Again, wish I still had the documents to hand. There was another material that I encountered a while ago, similar to 'galbestos' but where the asbestos content was (admittedly subjectively) lower and seemed to be a paint rather than bituminous coating - from memory it was called 'Trisomet' or 'Crisomet'. I would guess there are a number of similar products that the asbestos specialists out there could put forward. Yer actual limpet onto metal profile sheeting - now you are talking proper asbestos!! Cheers