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Can someone please give me some good reasons (with supportive evidence) why there should be a seperate sink for washing tea cups etc? or if this has already been dicussed before then let me knpw.
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Manny
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Manny I think you'll need to expand on the situation. What's the business and why the toiltet sink. Are the cups being washed in'prooper' soapy water etc.
Badger
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Do the taps supply "Drinking" water or other?
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This one surprises me.
Q. What do you do having been to the toilet? True gentlemen will return the seat and lid to their rightful closed position, using what -the hand? Ladies will obviously lift the seat lid using what?
A. Wash your hands, firstly turning on taps so anything on the hands is transferred to the tap.
Q. What do you do when washing tea cups in water?
A. Turn on the tap transferring anything on the tap to the hand.
Further the last thing you do, prior to drying, is turn off the tap so that anything you have washed off the hands is now returned from the tap :-((
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Agree with Chris, but what I wanted to establish was the size of the company, it might be one of these small units where a and hand basin is all they have.
Badger
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As a slight aside, in a previous company I worked for, the cleaners, as part of their duties, used to clean any dirty mugs that they found during the course of their even duties, and return them to the cupboard in the kitchenette areas. Being house-trained, I always washed my own one. One evening, having worked late on something urgent, I went to the kitchenette to wash my mug, but searched in vain for the scouring cloth that was provided for that purpose. As I gave up, and returned to my desk, the cleaner appeared and I asked her if she had seen the scouring cloth. She had, and was about to return it to the kitchen - she told me that she used the cloth to clean the toilet bowls - barff!!!
Ross
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Ross
I came across a similar situation when staff complained to me the one set of loos were smelling terribly. I could not communicate directly with the African cleaner as he spoke absolutely no English, so I contacted his supervisor who spoke to him on the phone.
However, the situation over the next few days got worse - despite an e-mail from me to our contractors complaining. It was a hot summer, so at least we could open the windows, but it was bad. Drainage people came and went saying there wasn't an issue.
Then one of my guys burst into the office a very unhappy chappy. He had visited the toilet to find our cleaner wetting his floor mop directly from the toilet pan. The cleaner was - as far as he could see- cleaning to loo pan and floor simultaneously.
He didn't come back the next day. An example of the need for proper staff training if there ever was one!!
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There was a station cleaner, (fire station), who was mopping the kitchen floor and as she passed the gas cooker she opened the oven, gave it a quick once over with the mop, then carried on mopping the floor.
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A bit more detailed info on the situation:
A work location has a toilet area with two small hand wash basins. These sinks are generally used for hand washing after using the toilet (although they aren't used by everyone!). There is no seperate kitchen area and therefore workers fill their kettles and wash their cups in the same sink. I don't particularly think it is very hygienic and therefore would like to know if there is any legislation, or guideline etc., which states that a seperate sink must be provided for cleaning drinking vessels etc.
Manny
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What would they do as an alternative?
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I think you have to take a sense of what is reasonable.
Of course it's desirable to have a seperate sink but the reality is that in workplaces up and down the land people don't have access to those seperate facilites.If there are no alternatives then there are no alternatives.
To set your mind at rest I bet that if they tested the taps in the toilets and the taps for a kitchen sink the level of germs would be comparable, In fact don't they say there are more germs on a kitchen cloth than a toilet seat.
There is no specific legislation in this case. As long as the area is cleaned reguarly.
I'm not being fliappant just realistic.
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Morning,
I do not know of any regulation that covers this aspect, (that does not mean there isn't one, just that I don't know of it) so I tend to agree with Clairel. I suppose the nearest would be Reg 9 of the Welfare Regulations (L24) which talks of cleanliness to furniture, furnishings and fittings, in your case the sink, taps and surroundings. Though they may not apply in your situation through exemption?
Perhaps your best option is to watch what your cleaner does to ensure what their routine is and see if you are satisfied with the end result.
If you don't have a cleaner then you would want to establish a cleaning routine.
Take Care
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It shouldn't be to difficult to cut into the hot and cold water supply and run them to a new sink that could be installed else where of course this assumes there is space for one nearby so the waste for the current sinks can be used. But as others have said common sense should be used or use disposable cups that are used in vending machines.
Phil
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I am of the same opinion as Claiel and Fletcher but wanted to make sure that I send the correct reply to our Auditors who quoted "you must have a seperate sink to wash kitchen utensils, crockery etc". Strangely enough they couldn't give me a decent explenation as to why or under which Regulation!
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Manny
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