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MEden380  
#1 Posted : 29 September 2010 15:19:11(UTC)
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MEden380

Has any one had to deal with poor hygiene standards in domestic properties? We send in maintenance operatives to domestic properties where some peoples' standards of living are some what dubious at best. We can't risk assess before hand as the service is responsive repairs and some times classed as an emergency. We supply all trade operatives with a uniform, safety foot wear plus disposable overalls, disposable over shoes, disposable gloves and RPE if required. They are all issued with sanitising hand gel and advised not to eat or drink until they have used the gel or washed their hands after visiting a property. Sensible comments please its not yet Friday
MaxPayne  
#2 Posted : 29 September 2010 15:31:40(UTC)
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MaxPayne

All social landlords have this as an issue, and it's a difficult one. Generally we advise staff that they report back to their line manager if they have concerns and they may withdraw if the problem is considered serious enough. Usually in those cases the housing team write to the customer and advise them to clean the place up eyc, or we involve EH. Trades' ops all have different levels of what's acceptable or not, but we undertake 60k repairs a year and the number that we have an issue with is fairly low. Risk assessments all cover good hygiene, and include the use of PPE as well as the potential for needlesticks which also comes up from time to time. Fleas will be the latest thing with heating going back on, but that's another thread and has been discussed on here many times.
Cooper103721  
#3 Posted : 29 September 2010 15:35:28(UTC)
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Cooper103721

You probably have a 'generic' type RA for these situations but maybe you could have something like a one minute RA where your operative could do a quick check be they start to confirm everything is still current. I have such a thing that I have used in the pass and it seems to work ok. If you want a copy PM me and I'll forward it on Bob
Jim Tassell  
#4 Posted : 29 September 2010 15:41:06(UTC)
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Jim Tassell

This is a case where you really need to engage with the troops. You can actually do a lot to assess the common problems that they come across but to do so, you need to tap into their experience. Take this in easy stages - remember, risk has a component of frequency so to start with don't get hung up on the bizarre, focus on the ordinary, the run of the mill situations that your people encounter and work them through to sensible conclusions. You will then be in a position to put in place sensible and justifiable precautions. You will also be in a position to work out, with them, sensible fall-backs for the oddities that they may occasionally come across. A little while down the line, your review of the assessments then needs to pick up on experience with the bizarre oddities to see whether the bounds of the routine assessments can be extended. No doubt others will in due course comment on "dynamic risk assessment", fair enough but don't go there without getting the common problems well covered first. Just as a thought, consider "lone working procedures" as well as PPE etc. Maybe even tap into non-safety information for visit planning if the guys are liable to go into difficult situations (geographical, social, business etc.). Forewarned is forearmed! Jim
Tim Eldridge  
#5 Posted : 29 September 2010 15:48:58(UTC)
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Tim Eldridge

I agree with all the comments above. I would also advise that consideration should be given to child protection issues. Recent high profile cases have shown the vulnerability of organisations who have staff entering domestic premises where they observe children living in unacceptable conditions (this also applies to vulnerable adults). You should have a procedure where, if they have concerns, the operatives report it and it is then dealt with by appropriate qualifed professionals (in our case we have a team who would do this for us).
Ken Slack  
#6 Posted : 29 September 2010 16:46:14(UTC)
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Ken Slack

I would also look at some low level risk assessment training, so your engineers/operatives can dynamically risk assess. Just because a residence has poor hygiene it doesn't mean it's unsafe. Teach your guys to assess each dwelling on it's merits and withdraw if necessary.
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 29 September 2010 23:36:51(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Do keep a proper sense of proportion. The finest of upstanding citizens will on occasion have a blocked drain or a blocked toilet which your chaps will have to deal with [ :( ] or the tenant might be a very heavy smoker. At the other end of the spectrum, real risks to your people may present via drugs paraphenalia, dangerous dogs and (not forgetting the long-latency issues) poor knowledge and poor training in asbestos awareness -a particular problem in emergency call-out situations. A clarty hoose (as we say in Scotland) can be readily dealt with by having a good wash afterwards. Do your people have the option to return to a central depot at any point in the day for a hot shower if need be?
bob youel  
#8 Posted : 30 September 2010 07:14:19(UTC)
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bob youel

with all due respect I feel that proactive risk assessment can be carried out that will cover at least 95% and more of what is to be done, what people may come accross and is foreseeable - with only a very small amount of dynamic RA needed thereafter; as we do By asking the question a risk assessment has been started Simple rules can be made but its very difficult for the front line staff [as usual] as if the heating is off and the house is full of dog waste how does a tradesman leave when small children are present and the house is freezing - Office based senior management need to be much more proactive with their tenants instead of leaving things to people lower down as the tenants know the law and you cannot throw out a child [under other law] in cold weather where technicially you can throw out the people who cause the mess e.g. the parents
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