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john wilson  
#1 Posted : 07 October 2010 15:42:27(UTC)
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john wilson

Hi All Just looking for everyone’s view on the movement of plant on site or on the public roads using agricultural tractors and low loaders. I have been looking into this and ask from a safety point of view how do you stop small owner drivers on large spread out projects such as pipelines and road projects moving an excavator on a low loader, and what is required re haulage and road legalities when he does. I have information from the DVLA on braking systems, loadings, licences and the good old tractor csr card and road licence but I am asking for more, the answer don't let them use them is easy but not easily enforced over spread out projects. all comments welcome John
SteveL  
#2 Posted : 07 October 2010 16:26:38(UTC)
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SteveL

Has it got the capacity to take the weight of the plant, can the plant be secured, will it do less damage, will it save time, is it safer than having a banksman walk with the travelling machine, can the machine move on the road safely
RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 07 October 2010 18:20:44(UTC)
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RayRapp

John Had a similar problem recently with a flat bed trailer. Trying to establish the SWL was not an easy task due to the number of variables. In the end we contacted the supplier who was able to give us loading capacities. However, that was only half the problem solved, the other being assessing the load weight/force. My point being is that it may be a judgement call on how manage your problem ie a specific rule, supervision etc.
animal254  
#4 Posted : 07 October 2010 23:19:16(UTC)
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animal254

John, As well as a CSR card, if it is going on the public road, has the driver the correct rating on their licence. What is their age? You can drive a tractor from 16 years old. If it is going on the public road the machine will have to meet construction and use regs, insurance and all the other bits and bob that car owners have to adhere to. Colour of fuel is another factor as well as their insurance coverage. they may just have farm insurance for the machine, it may not cover them being used for hire or reward. Even if it is their own machine that is on the back of the trailer it is not being used for agricultural purposes, so will probably not be covered under their insurance. Depending on the trailer it will require a valid MOT as per any articulated trailer. LOLER certs for the chains used to secure the machine onto the trailer as normal. The last time I had this on a road site I found it was best left to those nice people from HMRC and PSNI RPU to sort it out.
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