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brett_wildin  
#1 Posted : 11 October 2010 20:34:24(UTC)
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brett_wildin

How do you make sure that all accidents/incidents and near misses however minor are reported?
boblewis  
#2 Posted : 11 October 2010 21:33:47(UTC)
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boblewis

With great difficulty :-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bob
freelance safety  
#3 Posted : 11 October 2010 21:39:27(UTC)
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freelance safety

Well batted bob!
brett_wildin  
#4 Posted : 11 October 2010 21:52:36(UTC)
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brett_wildin

Thanks Bob, Freelance. It's impossible. I trained as a carpenter, and obviously my hands have taken a few knocks over the years. With regards to reporting, if I was still on the tools I would say "oh bother". and carry on. Maybe i'll post some more Exor accreditation questions later. regards Brett
DaveDaniel  
#5 Posted : 11 October 2010 23:57:16(UTC)
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DaveDaniel

Brett - We came across a contractor who'd been using another local consultant to gain Exor accreditation. He was told he'd need to have a written policy requiring him to avoid working at heights. As a scaffolding contractor (clearly noted on his application) you can imagine the response!!! Our own experiences were no better. We had one guy told he had to do a written fire safety risk assessment on his house, because his wife did the books in the conservatory. You just have to go back and challenge them.
Williams  
#6 Posted : 12 October 2010 08:08:52(UTC)
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Williams

The only guys that can make it happen are the workers. What I do is this; tried talking to them as nacho as possible to always report all accident/nearmisses no matter how little with no fear of penance (which is the main problem), so that others can learn from it. However, its left for them to do that, without the workers its impossible to gets all of them. So, if you must get all, try to change the mentality of your workers about accident and nearmiss reporting.
brett_wildin  
#7 Posted : 12 October 2010 12:43:33(UTC)
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brett_wildin

Williams, The workers are generally very good at reporting it is the "however minor" that is the problem. i.e. getting pricked by a thorn whilst clearing brambles(by the way the thorn doesnt remain otherwise it's a hospital visit), dropped an offcut of timber on the foot. I dont think I would want to change the mentality of the workers. At the end of the day I could say as much as I liked to the workers even offer them a tenner and they still wouldn't report everything.
ClarkeScholes  
#8 Posted : 12 October 2010 21:14:29(UTC)
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ClarkeScholes

Exor want you to answer the question, not actually do it. So tell them what you do: the procedure, the toolbox talks, the policy of no-blame incident investigation, the employee hand book that calls for it and all the other initiatives. Me, I love a good questionnaire, much more fun than actually doing any safety management, trying to persuade some remote box-checker that I am already doing it. I got 18001 accreditation from a UKAS third party so that I could fill out fewer questionnaires and what happened? Even the ones who used to say "send us your accreditation" started asking for evidence. Now there's a bunch of red tape ready for shredding. If only we could get recognition for just the one system. Discuss! Paul
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