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redken  
#1 Posted : 18 October 2010 13:20:23(UTC)
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redken

P39 of Common Sense Common Safety. “I recommend that the HSE produce clear separate guidance… focussed on the lower risks associated with SMEs.” I wonder if these are examples of the SMEs that he had in mind? http://news.hse.gov.uk/2.../?eban=rss-press-release http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-se-1410.htm http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-nw-39gap.htm http://www.hse.gov.uk/pr...2010/coi-sw-831sww10.htm http://www.hse.gov.uk/pr...nw-56fencingsupplies.htm
Bob Howden  
#2 Posted : 18 October 2010 14:08:41(UTC)
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Bob Howden

bob youel  
#3 Posted : 19 October 2010 07:31:28(UTC)
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bob youel

Lower risks associated with SME's? = Somebody needs to point Lord Young in the right direction as the risk present has no bearing on the size of the company in many cases especially so as apparently >80% of all companies are SME's who work in all industrial sectors SME examples: Arbourists, Blacktop gangs, Cornershop offlicence, Sewer gangs, Scaffolder gangs, Gangmaster areas, builders etc; the list goes on and on And 'suitable and sufficient 'comes to mind when I look at some RA examples given by experts; as its only a judge [&/or possibly a jury] that will decide if a RA is suitable and sufficient and the trap of thinking 'this is the HSE example so I am covered' needs to be avoided as the very same people providing an example will be looking for holes when they prosecute and they will find them
jwk  
#4 Posted : 19 October 2010 10:54:04(UTC)
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jwk

Bob, absolutely true. The HSE tick-list RA for offices is a fairly poor tool in my view, and certainly with regard to fire doesn't come close to satisfying the requirements of the RR(FS)O. Like so much literature on fire it starts by asking how a fire will be noticed and the alarm raised; this is useless. It doesn't begin to ask the employer what they might be doing to prevent a fire in the first place, which to my mind is the whole point: no fire, no worries, John
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