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http://www.hse.gov.uk/aa...tion-to-abolish-aala.htm
I thought I would start a specific thread on this particular Lord Young recommendation because the general lord young threads are getting rather bloated and unwealdy. So, here's my question; As a parent should I be worried about this recommendation?
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Without reading the whole thing I would say no; as providing a licence does not ensure adequate management its only a licence
When we have no more 'Claims' are us' / 'no win no fee' solicitors and the like who chase schools, employers etc and individuals we may have a problem as its they and similar that ensure some standards are met. Additionally common law and civil law will not be got rid of as that is the area where the legal brigade get most of their £ from!
Just my humble opinion
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My view as a parent is yes I am worried.
I want to know the details of what is going to replace it.
At least if a provider is licensed you know that they have been inspected to ensure that they are continuing to meet the requirements for holding a licence.
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I don't think you should be worried, at least not yet. Once we see the draft code in the Spring of 2011 we will be able to review and decide. We should also keep in mind that the report clearly outlines that the present scheme is not that perfect or comprehensive so your children may well be attending adventure activity outside the licensing scheme today or you may be placing too much reliance on just what it provides. (or doesnt as the case may be!)
(all extracts are from Lord Youngs Report. Common Sense, Common Safety)
Extract from page 47 stakeholder responses Adventure Training
Measures to relax rules around adventure activities and to provide a simpler system of accreditation were broadly supported by those engaged in the provision of such activities. A number of providers expressed a desire for a more simplified system of licensing. The Adventure Activities Industry Advisory Committee, for instance, noted that current regulation was covered by ‘an incomplete, inconsistent and anomalous’ set of accreditation schemes.
There is no obvious comment about reducing the protection required for such activity.
Extracts from page 36 Adventure Training.
“The HSE believes that effective enforcement of the requirements of the 1974 Act and the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations is sufficient. The licensing regime is narrowly focused on a limited number of outdoor activities and does not reflect the wide range of adventure activities now available.”
And the report then recommends that
“instead introduce a code of practice that the HSE will oversee and monitor. The HSE should also ensure that those planning trips can feel confident that a provider is compliant with the code”
Spring 2011
Launch of consultation on a draft voluntary code of practice to replace the current Adventure Activities Licensing Authority
And finally:
Bodies representing teachers were not convinced that there should be any move to dilute current health and safety regulation relating to school trips and educational visits. However, the NASUWT did highlight the need ‘to recognise that parents and carers have a particular role to play in educating young people to be risk aware’.
So to summarise what the report says is that the AALA will be scrapped and replaced with a voluntary code. That is a bit vague as is much of the report and one could question how the "HSE should also ensure that those planning trips can feel confident that a provider is compliant with the code” when it is being described as voluntary but that is the devil in the detail that surrounds this report.
So I repeat I wouldn't worry too much. I would wager that matters such as a single lifetime parental consent will disappear in the drafting of the code. It is a good idea but it will have to be such a complex form that it will dwarf all existing consents and plans. I am not knocking its inclusion in the report. All reports have areas that will never see the light of day and the single form is one of those.
Properly written with the positive input and support of all stakeholders, a voluntary code may well prove to be a better means of controlling the risk, I did say may. I am least willing to be convinced.
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