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Hi all
has anyone heard of a change in the LOLER regs? I've just been told they have changed to a more risk based inspection regime. E:g if you are in a brand new building for example you would not have to carryout 6mth inspection as apposed to say a lift that was built in the 70's or whatever
Can't say I've heard of anything
cheers
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Mike
LOLER has always included scope for a risk based thorough examination scheme - see Reg 9(3)(a)(iii).
But I doubt that many a competent person would sign up to an examination scheme that extends the 6 months for a brand new passenger lift, not least due to the "bathtub curve" which plots failure rate against age. Typically high failure rate early in life, then drops down to a relative plateau before going back sharply in old age. (Obviously the actual age varies depending on what equipment you are looking at - but the general reason why taking out extended warranty on white goods rarely beneficial)
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One of my contacts in the HSE is very fond of saying that the durations in Regulations like LOLER are maximums, and he is really looking to employers to judge for themselves how often their equipment breaks down, and introduce their own inspection frequency based on their own individual needs. However, this is a long way from many of my business contacts, who operate on a 'when it breaks I'll fix it' regime!
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Thanks to you both for your repiles
I was always under the impression that it had to be 6mts for any passanger carrying lift reagrdless of age, usage etc.
I don't really get involved with the lifts in our building (which was completed in 2007) but we are getting them done every 6mths.
so is this not nessacary then?
Cheers
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Mike
Reg 9(3) every employer must....(i) in the case of lifting equipment for lifting persons or an accessory for lifting, at least every 6 months...
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I was under the impression that the minimum inspection frequency was an absolute rule and not risk based by individuals?
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It would be interesting to see the results of an HSE investigation if the inspections were less than 6 months because that was what was deemed necessary by an individual?
MG
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There's a fair bit of qualification and guidance buried in the the HSE's FOD and LACORS guidance about LOLER (particularly around slings, hoists etc), but you do have to dig to find it. Of course, this is not really intended for public consumption, it's there more for reasons of freedom of information.
Beware though - they are under no obligation to keep this information current - there are a lot of "wobbly" documents out there. I recently had to deal with a widespread confusion around asbestos management when someone decided to run with a seemingly authoritative (but woefully out of date) FOD document they stumbled across!
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Haven't heard anything other than a review is planned.
Anyway as others have pointed out, lifting equipment for persons must be inspected every six months. My understanding is that a separate schedule may exist for lifts specifically - which will likely be checked every month or so by the manufacturer / installer.
A
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With lifts I expect that the insurance company will have a big inmput as to who and when they are inspected as is the case now within our buildings
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Watch out for potential confusion. There are effectively two levels of inspection. There's the competent person thorough examination which is 6 monthly. And always has been ever since the inception of the OSRP Act at least. The competent person is the person who sets a shorter time limit if they think it necessary (I've come across this very occasionally with really old equipment) but not any odd inspector on a whim. The second level though is the routine maintenance operational inspection, which is likely to be much more frequent than 6 monthly but is risk-based and although LOLER doesn't say it in as many words, is really the requirement for a proper service contract or regime.
But watch out, new lifts can get an initial 12 month "bye" if certified by the supplier in terms of the Lifts Regs 1997 as part of the CE marking process. But I'd still want my plant insurer on side really!
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Lifts Regs 1997 requires new installation has a maintenance program in place as per suppliers requirements. That a competent person inspects the lift, that the competent person who inspects the lift is not the person who maintains the lift to prevent conflicts. If the lift is used for persons inspections at least 6 monthly, if used for goods at least 12 monthly. After the initial installation.
Do not forget the requirements of HSWA section 3 persons not in employ
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