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David H  
#1 Posted : 11 December 2010 20:53:59(UTC)
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David H

Hi folks - I have a problem that I hope you can assist me with.
We had a high power multi company telephone conference on Friday to address the issues detailed but nothing I heard there gives me cause to think a change is coming!

We are in the process of replacing power generation on a gas rig in the North sea and its associated nodules. We are using tempory generators while we replace the engines and fuel gas skids.
We are past the destruct phase and well into the construct phase with commisioning due next month.

My problem is the incident rate is high - we have had 1 LTI, 1 MTC and 5 first aid cases in the last 6 months. This is bad - I accept.
But the LTI, MTC and 3 of the first aid cases occurred while the guys were off shift and on the accomodation barge attached to the platform.

Now I do want the people to come off shift and relax - but I also want them to be safe.
I cannot keep harping on to them that the facts are telling me the barge is more dangerous that the work face - and the barge owner is telling me his crew are not being injured.

Are we unlucky or am I missing something? We have successfully put in a new deck and managed circa 400 tonne lifts with no issues. Then the guys go off shift and get cut with a knife in the canteen or fall over the bulk head door frame etc.

Yes it is an older barge and due for refurb. But it has been used in other projects without the same level of incidents.

Welfare is as good as you would accept and a fairly professional work team are employed. Briefings are as usual N sea platforms etc and we use the platform knowledge and learnings as well.

Comments from anyone who has experienced anything similar would be apprecieated

Thanks

David H
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 12 December 2010 23:41:18(UTC)
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RayRapp

David

No nothing about off/on shore work but, is there a causal link between these incidents? If not, could it just be down to cold weather making people less careful or conditions? Have you considered any 'social' activities which may have been a contributing fact? Finally, accidents are sometimes like buses...just one of those things.
David H  
#3 Posted : 13 December 2010 07:20:23(UTC)
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David H

Thanks Ray - only link seems to be a lack of concentration by the guys.
Weather not an issue as some of the incidents happened in the summertime.

Hope there are no more buses due!!

David
MB1  
#4 Posted : 13 December 2010 09:47:30(UTC)
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MB1

Hi David,

What have the weather conditions been like recently?

Have you considered the difference from being on a fixed platform to a moving floating barge? Some people may have difficulty in the regular transition between both, especially regarding heave & swells whilst moving inside the accommodation where they are not able to see the horizon... All to do with motion but could be a factor that they need constant reminding of?
andybz  
#5 Posted : 13 December 2010 11:18:49(UTC)
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andybz

David
You have two issues to address:

1. Determining whether there is a root cause to the incidents occurring on the accommodation barge that you can do something about.
2. Making sure you continue to manage the main risks (i.e. replacing the generating skids), without being distracted by relatively trivial events.

It is important to remember that a run of incidents may not be statistically significant. That is how random events pan out.

One thing you need to be doing is focussing on incident potential rather than actual consequence. It may be that these incidents were as bad as they could possibly have been, but that there may have been other near-miss incidents associated with the main work that had much greater potential. This will help you decide whether you have just had a run of bad luck. Also, by understanding how the more serious consequences were avoided you may identify some things that your team are doing really well in managing the main work that can be transferred to the off-shift situations.
imwaldra  
#6 Posted : 13 December 2010 12:23:51(UTC)
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imwaldra

I agree with the posts above. Only additional point I can contribute is re working hours. Could fatigue be an issue, resulting in less attention when workers return to the 'domestic' environment on the barge where they feel safe and can relax attention?
I'm fully aware of UK Oil & Gas Guidance re offshore working hours and assume you are complying, but are you regulary near the limits? How near to the end of their offshore trips did the injuries occur?
Reading info so far available re Deepwater Horizon it's pretty clear that, while lots of good practices were in place and were apparently being followed, the whole team involved (on- and offshore) seem to have been a bit 'demob happy' - i.e. they were so near the end of a difficult and challenging well that getting it finally done became their main driver, and judgements and routine practices about getting it done safely (like: monitoring pits; defining the right cement mix and confirming that by tests; getting the right centralisers fitted) all became biassed.
Hope this helps.
David H  
#7 Posted : 13 December 2010 14:19:26(UTC)
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David H

Thanks folks;

MB1 - barge is a jack up and steady - attached to the platform at 2 locations.

Andy - good points. Root causes seem to be a loss of concentration and awareness of their surroundings - they need to look before they move. There are no visual distraction to speak of and fatigue has been discounted.

If we remove the incidents that have happened on the accommodation, then our SMS is working well. Moral is strong and the guys are mostly very professional in their attitudes.

imwaldra - incidents are sporadic - last one was only 2 days into their tour.

In a 5 month period we have had ~ 300 recorded "observations" or safety cards submitted so plenty of reporting.

Consequences are low but the figures are stacking up and I am worrying that we are filling the incident triangle and we are heading for something nasty.

Hopefully we have turned the corner

Thanks again
David Bannister  
#8 Posted : 13 December 2010 15:11:20(UTC)
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David Bannister

David, as a complete outsider to the offshore world, may I suggest that the accommodation barge is home to the guys when not working and that your accident instances may be analogous to what happens to the general population whilst "not at work"

Now that is not to say that you can absolve yourself of responsibility like most employers can when we leave the works gate/office/school/depot etc, but it may serve to relax you somewhat. How many of us have had silly accidents whilst at home that would never have happened in the generally safer work environment?

Have you discussed this with any colleagues within your industry? They may have a similar situation.

Also, the accident triangle is only an unproven theory so it does not necessarily follow that a load of minors and first aids will automatically lead to majors and fatalities. It's a good argument for investigating and controlling the little ones but not a hard and fast rule.
sean  
#9 Posted : 13 December 2010 16:05:14(UTC)
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I have to agree with the last posting from Stuff4blokes, I am also not involved in this industry, but understand that these workers cannot go home after a full days work, however it has been proved that more accidents happen at home rather then in work, and really once they finish for the day and return to the barge they are technically at home.
Therefore your accident figures shouldn't include those while they are at home
MB1  
#10 Posted : 13 December 2010 16:39:12(UTC)
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MB1

In the offshore industry all accidents are reportable whether on shift or off shift.... Unless there has been significant improvements some accommodation vessels are not exactly homely!
David H  
#11 Posted : 13 December 2010 19:03:18(UTC)
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David H

Thanks again folks.
You could be right stuff4blokes - but the captive audience bit means its always in your face and MB1 is right - everything is reportable.
Yes the triangle is unproven but very unprofessional to ignore it.

I have spoken to others in the industry - including previous clients who have used this barge and they have reported very minor instances in the past - but that was short projects - maybe 3-4 weeks. So the crews were only doing one trip each.
Beginning to look at the fact that we are now in our 4th / 5th trip and maybe a bit complacent.

David
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