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Mubashir  
#1 Posted : 12 December 2010 10:11:15(UTC)
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Mubashir

Does any know how to get rid of this Tetraethyl lead? (Once a common antiknock additive/octane booster in gasoline (petrol), TEL usage was largely discontinued because of the toxicity of lead and its deleterious effect on catalytic converters) what is proper disposal method and how this matter is solved under the waste management.
townshend1012  
#2 Posted : 12 December 2010 20:33:12(UTC)
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townshend1012

Mubashir, You do not state whether this compound is in its raw state or contained in something else, as in your statement that it is a constituent of petrol, aviation avgas, etc. I have looked at this website (which is extremely useful for any chemical compound you can think of) http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/TE/tetraethyllead.html which, although it does not specifically say, I would assume that this has to be handled as Hazardous Waste and must be disposed of via a licensed disposal facility. This is also confirmed by the NSDS for Avgas which is here - http://www.conocophillip...0Aviation%20Gasoline.pdf I hope this helps. Regards,
Mubashir  
#3 Posted : 13 December 2010 15:00:56(UTC)
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Mubashir

Townshed, Thanks for advice,that's appreciated; basically the TEL is placed under cool place in containers(as the current industry is unable to use this stuff any more now). Do u have any idea, how the waste management companies tackle these kind of hazardous things? what are major risk involved in this, and why this thing require licensed authority companies. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks again
boblewis  
#4 Posted : 14 December 2010 00:10:27(UTC)
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boblewis

Mubashir Not sure of which legal jurisdiction you are under. The UK has specific legislation under the EU directives for the disposal of such materials. Re-processing is by far the best option but high temperature incineration with off gas scrubbing is common also. Some hazardous waste sites will also accept the liquid in the UK. There is a set documented procedure which ever route is taken. Bob
Ian Mitchell  
#5 Posted : 14 December 2010 10:01:39(UTC)
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Ian Mitchell

Hi Mubashir. Speaking as an enthusiast of classic cars [although no longer an owner] is this a UK site? I know that the law still permits a fraction of a percent of petrol to be sold with leaded additive precisely for such owners of vintage vehicles. There is a chain of service stations in the UK that sell it who I used to use [I won't name them but I am sure a google UK search for leaded 4 star petrol will turn them up]. As a leftfield idea, and legality permitting obviously, you could approach them/ whoever supplies them their petrol to offer the material for sale [presumably it is 'waste' due to non- saleability rather than not meeting its specification] at a low cost, thus not needing to treat it as waste at all, but as a saleable product. This isn't clear cut as I am not an expert on such matters, but I believe that petrol containing lead is not banned outright by UK law. [PS I am not confusing this with the short- lived LRP stuff that existed for a short while which contained no lead]. Edit: from Wikipedia UK - B*****d T****t obtained the permit for the sale of Leaded Four Star. Whilst banning the sale of leaded fuel, the Government (after heavy lobbying by the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs) agreed to make a limited volume available to special interest groups. B*****d is the only company to have a nationwide distributor permit.
townshend1012  
#6 Posted : 14 December 2010 11:28:04(UTC)
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townshend1012

Mubashir, Ian's idea is good if you think you could find a buyer for this fuel. Alternatively, having worked in aviation most of my life - any waste fuel was collected by the company who supplied it in the first place. They would then take it back to the refinery for recycling into other products. There would obviously be a charge for this service. What quantity do you hold?
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 14 December 2010 18:44:54(UTC)
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boblewis

Ian Defintely not a good idea toi handle TEL as it is highly toxic, mutagenic and carcinogenic!!!! Also the definition of waste has been subject to a great deal of examination in the European Court - the avoidance you suggest would simply not ppass muster now - The definition is from the perspective of the Producer not whether it could be purchased by A N Other Bob
Mubashir  
#8 Posted : 23 December 2010 13:14:11(UTC)
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Mubashir

Dear Fellows, boblewis, townshend, ian mitchell, It was wonderful to have a nice practical information, especially by Ian, whom have shown the other aspect of TEL that was totally unpredictable for me. plus boblewis suggestion regarding the legislative info was helpful too.. thanks to all . Regards, MUBASHIR
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