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paul reynolds  
#1 Posted : 15 December 2010 14:40:00(UTC)
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paul reynolds

Can any one suggest a suitable training course for Directors on corporate manslaughter etc. I am aware there is an IOSH course but need to investigate other providers. Many Thanks Paul R
JYoung  
#2 Posted : 15 December 2010 14:47:06(UTC)
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JYoung

Try these for starters - ND Safety or Croner Training or http://www.business-safe...anslaughter_details.aspx They all appear to be 3 hour to half day.
bob youel  
#3 Posted : 16 December 2010 07:25:45(UTC)
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bob youel

In my personal opinion you get in a successfull barrister or similar for 2 hours max - Directors take note because of their [the barrister's] percieved position and any >2 hour session is a turn off Tune any session to the people present as U will get 1 hit and it must be good as otherwise the H&S update will go like all the others - I bet that directors get in other professionals for the other topics so why not H&S. It also frees U [after U have introduced and rounded up] to get on with other work If U look at this exercise as a course U are on the wrong track this must be a hard hitting marketing; and especially; sales with committment thereafter exercise! Best of luck
m  
#4 Posted : 16 December 2010 08:55:11(UTC)
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m

Try the British Safety Council or Anne Davies at Crowell Moring if you would like an excellent legal perspective..
mikecarr  
#5 Posted : 16 December 2010 10:01:55(UTC)
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mikecarr

I do my own H&S law training for our managers/supervisors including corporate manslaughter. It's just an awareness session of the regs HSAWA etc but to be honest I think corporate manslaughter does waht it says on the box.
boblewis  
#6 Posted : 16 December 2010 10:50:56(UTC)
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boblewis

I personally would go for somebody like Rob Elvin at Hammonds as he is at the sharp end of defending many of the directors - But he will be charging at least £1k for a 2hr session. Directors do like his knowledge of the process though. Mention my name and he may give a discount! Bob
Canopener  
#7 Posted : 16 December 2010 13:38:33(UTC)
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Canopener

I have used the IOSH route in the past and have also enlisted the help of the local HSE principal. The IOSH course was too long and 'stodgy' and almost instantly forgettable (in fairness this was some years ago) The latter was from the horses mouth, used real life worked examples/investigation material, was delightfully entertaining (if not a little scary!) and was essentially free, other than a few cups of coffee. It was IMHO far more effective that the IOSH route.
RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 17 December 2010 20:10:28(UTC)
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RayRapp

I have done a presentation on the CMA to senior managers but do not think it would be a good topic for training, partly because if you comply with current h&s legislation the company will insulate itself from prosecution. Also, it is a very dry subject and needs to take into account other aspects which are not confined to just the CMA, such as a duty of care, gross negligence, HSWA and so on.
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