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I work for a large local government organisation, which employ 10000 employees over approximately 150 sites.
The organisation has a Health & Safety Policy in place. Under the “General Arrangements” heading the policy covers Fire Safety (about a paragraph).
My question is, do we need a separate Fire Safety Policy to run along side the Health & Safety Policy or is the one paragraph enough? The paragraph acknowledges the RRO and makes reference to appointing members of staff for particular responsibilities.
I do not think that this is adequate for such a large organisation although the manager does.. Any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.
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No, you don’t need a policy statement for The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005. If that was the case you would have a policy statement for every statutory regulation, which is not a legal requirement under current legislation. To comply with the RRFSO you should have standards and procedures in place under your health and safety policy.
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Mention your procedure which should cover everything you have in place and how you do it.For example:
Maintenance, Inspection and Testing of Fire Safety Equipment
Detectors
Appropriate suitable and sufficient heat and smoke detection systems
Alarms A suitable and sufficient fire alarm warning systems has been installed.
Sprinkler System A sprinkler system is installed and is linked to the alarm system
Evacuation
A procedure has been developed for the safe evacuation of employee’s and others etc
SBH
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Freelance is right that you don't need a fire safety policy as part of the FSO.
However, I recently saw a notice issued which asked the RP to write a fire safety policy.
The enforcement authority's rationale when issuing this notice was that the RP's FRA document did not adequately record the information as required by Article 11 (Fire safety arrangements) - that is :-
11.—(1) The responsible person must make and give effect to such arrangements as are appropriate, having regard to the size of his undertaking and the nature of its activities, for the effective planning, organisation, control, monitoring and review of the preventive and protective measures.
2) The responsible person must record the arrangements referred to in paragraph (1) where—
(a)he employs five or more employees;
(b)a licence under an enactment is in force in relation to the premises; or
(c)an alterations notice requiring a record to be made of those arrangements is in force in relation to the premises.
I did not have the opportunity to see the FRA report this notice refers to, but I guess it might have been a tick box type checklist with little text. This design does record much of the 'significant findings', but rarely the details required by Article 11. So if your fire risk assessment does not adequately record these details, it may be necessary to have a policy running parallel, to keep your local IO happy. Alternatively (and for the sake of half a dozen paragraphs) I always record these details in the FRA report.
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Messeyshaw, this is the difference between policy statement and policy, which is why I said policy statement.
As well as suitably assessing the risks, you should also have appropriate arrangements for the effective planning, organisation, control, monitoring and review of the preventive and protective measures in relation to this legislation.
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Thanks for your contributions guys. Messeyshaw, i understand what you are saying. The Fire Risk Assessments are adequate and were accepted in a recent visit by the local IO. The IO did make reference to the fact that the "arrangements" were not covered enough in the H& S Policy. Hence my posting as to wether we require a stand alone Fire Safety Policy.
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