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It might be a bit of a stupid question, but I have just enquire with a chemical producer why if they rate the chemical as R10 Flammable, there is not a Flammable symbol on the container. The reply was that unless it is highly or extremely Flammable there is no requirement. I have not heard this before and believe there is a symbol for all 3 measurements of Flammable. Can someone confirm if required or not?
Many thanks
Del
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They are correct - see this page http://www.hse.gov.uk/chip/phrases.htm.
You also have to bear in mind that manufacturers are not obliged to label something up with ALL the hazard warning symbols that apply.
Everything is about to change with the GHS symbols coming into the workplace. Have a look here:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/ghs/
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To be strictly accurate the fact that a chemical is classed as R10 - Flammable is nothing to do with the CoSHH regulations.
CoSHH is only concerend with the health effects of chemicals.
R-10 Flammability etc is a consideration/classification under DSEAR - Dangerous Substances and Explosive Atmospheres Regulations.
I wish I had a £ for every time I had seen flammability etc linked / considered in CoSHH assessments, I would of retired by now
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ITER has hit a nail on the head thats why risk assessments must be evaluated together to give a full picture which then can be turned into a procedure, written safe system of work [or what ever people call such docs]
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We include a specific question in our the COSHH Assessment format whether a DSEAR Assessment is required if conditions can exist for fire /explosion risks so that it is not missed out .
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ITER, why did you bring up COSHH?
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redken wrote:ITER, why did you bring up COSHH?
Probably because it was in the title.
However, I am conscious that this is a diversion as it is not answering Del's question.
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Hi all,
Thanks for your help, all sorted now.
Rgds
Del
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The CHIP regulations are changing on the 14 the Jan, so the symbols will change
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Terry 556
14th of January? Jays link says different! http://www.hse.gov.uk/ghs/eureg.htm
CLP labelling applies to 'substances' from 1st December last year. and to 'mixtures' from 2015. So i guess we will see the older labels for sometime yet.
Rules for classification under CHiP and CLP are a bit more complicated by expalined in the link.
Feel free to correct me if I have missed something.Thanks
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Jon,
For Substances:-
From 1st December 2010 to 1st June 2015:-
Suppliers must classify substances according to both CHIP and CLP (i.e MSDS's must have both old & new) They must label and package according to CLP only.
1st June 2015 onwards
Suppliers must classify and label according to CLP (old DSD/CHIP classifications disappear entirely)
For Mixtures:-
From 20th January 2009 to 1st June 2015
Suppliers can continue to classify, label and package according to CHIP
However they may, as an alternative choose to classify, label and package mixtures according to CLP.
In this case, they must in addition continue to classify under CHIP (for SDS), but the requirements for labelling and packaging of CHIP no longer apply.
1st June 2015 onwards
Suppliers must classify, label and package according to CLP only (old CHIP/DPD classifications disappear)
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