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Ward27428  
#1 Posted : 31 January 2011 16:17:16(UTC)
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Ward27428

I have been told today that PASMA guidance exists that states that PASMA trainied operatives can only erect towers to a maximum height of 6m and towers higher than this must be erected by scaffolders. I can find no reference to this on the PASMA website - could anyone tell me if there is any truth in this and if so point me in the direction of the relevant guidance?
Thanks
coges  
#2 Posted : 31 January 2011 16:25:08(UTC)
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coges

Can only suggest you call PASMA 0845 2304041
Canopener  
#3 Posted : 31 January 2011 20:45:44(UTC)
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Canopener

If you're in the construction sector (which your entry suggests) and are using tower scaffolds on a reasonably regular or frequent basis, perhaps a copy of the code of practice (clearly posted on the pasma website!) at a £5 might be a reasonable investment!
http://www.pasma.co.uk/public/code-of-practice.jsp
JYoung  
#4 Posted : 01 February 2011 11:00:42(UTC)
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JYoung

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/cis10.pdf

Have a look at this link, it may be of some use, if not it does give details on where to get further info. Over 6m you would likely need to look at stability issues of the tower.
PhilBeale  
#5 Posted : 01 February 2011 18:17:53(UTC)
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PhilBeale

Can't fins any of my PASMA notes and i don't remember there being any limit on height other than the need to fit stabilizers the high you go up. from memory the size of your base you can go up 3 times so if you have a base width (with or without stabilizers) of say 2 mtrs then you can erect a tower upto 6 mtrs. i thought there might be restrictions on the maximum size they manufacture mobile towers but going by one manufacturer they have tower up to 12mtrs but you would need to ensure you had a base width of 4mtrs so you would definitely need stabilizers to achieve this.

As suggested above i would contact PASMA or who ever you use for training
wood1e  
#6 Posted : 01 February 2011 20:32:37(UTC)
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wood1e

I would suggest that the PASMA position would be to refer you back to the manufacturer for the performance criteria of the product. Yes they used to teach the ratio method for indoors and out but this was withdrawn and replaced with the manufacturers Data as this is ultimately who is responsible for the design and the stability of the product when in use.
frankc  
#7 Posted : 02 February 2011 15:10:21(UTC)
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frankc

Ward27428 wrote:
I have been told today that PASMA guidance exists that states that PASMA trained operatives can only erect towers to a maximum height of 6m and towers higher than this must be erected by scaffolders. I can find no reference to this on the PASMA website - could anyone tell me if there is any truth in this and if so point me in the direction of the relevant guidance?
Thanks


The PASMA standard course asks the delegates to assemble a tower to 4m for the training course. After they have passed there are no restrictions on them building a tower to the maximum allowable height the manufacturer states.
A scaffolder doesn't have the right to assemble an aluminium tower unless they've been trained to do so. Tube and clip scaffolding is entirely different from prefabricated components.
So the answer to your question is no.
(Just for clarification though, 'suitable and sufficient' training is required - not necessarily PASMA unless your client stipulates it)
Ward27428  
#8 Posted : 03 February 2011 09:40:51(UTC)
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Ward27428

Thanks all for your help. Following the original post I have been told by two reliable sources that there are height restrictions of 8m externally and 12m internally. Something else that came up as part of the digging is that the standard PASMA training course does not cover operatives for erecting towers on staircases but a seperate module (A4) is required for this.
Thanks again to everyone who responded.
frankc  
#9 Posted : 03 February 2011 10:35:30(UTC)
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frankc

ward27428 wrote:
Thanks all for your help. Following the original post I have been told by two reliable sources that there are height restrictions of 8m externally and 12m internally. Something else that came up as part of the digging is that the standard PASMA training course does not cover operatives for erecting towers on staircases but a seperate module (A4) is required for this.
Thanks again to everyone who responded.


Just for clarification on the point of '8m and 12m', they may be the limits by a particular manufacturer.
If you are assembling a tower, you will require the current manufacturers instruction manual of that particular tower which will have all the essential safety requirements including the maximum allowable height.
You would be correct that PASMA have a seperate (advanced) module for assembling towers on a staircase.
alan w houghton  
#10 Posted : 03 February 2011 13:27:47(UTC)
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alan w houghton

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