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Captain Mainwearing  
#1 Posted : 10 February 2011 10:57:06(UTC)
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Captain Mainwearing

Hi Anyone know what has been put forward as the minimum?
Ferris38332  
#2 Posted : 10 February 2011 11:42:57(UTC)
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Ferris38332

Captain M, At the moment the bill has only had it's first reading. The contents of the bill will probably become available nearer to the second reading, which is scheduled for the 8th July this year. Keep an eye out on the link below for further updates. Once the bill has been published it can be found via the link on the left had side labelled 'Bill documents' http://services.parliame...tantsqualifications.html
Ken Slack  
#3 Posted : 10 February 2011 11:46:24(UTC)
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Ken Slack

Maybe everyone should rebadge to become advisors....
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 10 February 2011 12:05:25(UTC)
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RayRapp

I am starting to feel a bit persecuted...
Bob Shillabeer  
#5 Posted : 10 February 2011 12:22:29(UTC)
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Bob Shillabeer

I assume this is following the Lord Young report and is simply making legal provision for the register of H&S consultants. It may not have any real affect simply a legal requirement.
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 10 February 2011 12:56:05(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The troubling issues here are surely what the definition of a "health and safety consultant"is going to be. The term has to be defined before they can decide the qualifications applicable. Good luck to them - particularly if they attempt to meddle with Reg 7 of the Management Regs. The other Bills (all on the same link above) are equally troubling. "Low Hazard Workplace" or "Low Hazard Equipment" anyone? Shouldn't these read "low risk"?
Heather Collins  
#7 Posted : 10 February 2011 15:40:44(UTC)
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Heather Collins

bob shillabeer wrote:
I assume this is following the Lord Young report and is simply making legal provision for the register of H&S consultants.
No not really. It's a private member's bill - not Govt-sponsored - and stands little chance of becoming law as I understand it. The Govt's preferred method of dealing with this is by a voluntary register not by legislation.
ITER  
#8 Posted : 10 February 2011 16:12:55(UTC)
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ITER

As I have said before, this seems to look at the world of safety consultancy in much too narrow a way. As you may have gathered I work in the engineering design sector - oil/gas/nuclear etc. Am I an engineer or a safety consultant? As I have too consider both aspects as part of my job. My job title is Senior Safety Engineer. When do I stop becoming a safety consultant and become an engineering consultant? If this ever becomes law, I will just call myself am Engineering Consultant or Technical Consultant or some other generic term. Seems to be much fuss over nothing and not likely to have any real effect, especially if it is voluntary only to register.
Phillip Clarke  
#9 Posted : 10 February 2011 18:38:30(UTC)
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Phillip Clarke

Christopher Chope, a backbench Tory MP, submitted a number of bills following Lord Young's sacking. I think it is an attempt to ensure that Lord Young's report is not dropped. As private members bills they stand no chance of becoming law unless the government decides to support them.
John M  
#10 Posted : 10 February 2011 19:09:25(UTC)
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John M

This Bill is listed on Order Paper for a second reading on 8 July 2011, although the House is not expected to sit on this day. A number of PM Bills do command the interest and committment of the Government. Leo Abse was a master at PM's Bills and managed to get a number of controversial Bills passed into law. The Health and Safety Offences Act 2009 is a more recent Statute that has its genesis in a Private Member's Bill. Jon
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